The Self programming language

[wiz]

yep here's another one,
but it will appeal to those who admire, well designed, high performance, OOP languages

not much info available... but i know a MacOS X port of the compiler and vm is released

you could find out more info if ur interested at the Self homepage

@ Sun labs.

 

[Trip]

It's very interesting. But looks limiting.
Since they say it supports jaguar i'm happy with it. Who knows what it can become within a few years.

 

[LordOphidian]

Its not a really active project at Sun anymore from what I can find on their site.

It looks like they took some of the VM technology from it for Java's HotSpot and the GUI seems to have gone to Squeek.

Sounds like a very interesting language though.

 

[wiz]

Originally posted by LordOphidian
Its not a really active project at Sun anymore from what I can find on their site.

i think they mean to say that its not a project undertaken by sun, but one that is under development in their labs, or something like that

 

[LordOphidian]

One that was under development at the labs, its now on life support but hasn't had any new features or major updates for aproximately 5 years.

In 1995 the Self Group at Sun Microsystems Laboratories, Inc., and Stanford University made available Release 4.0 of the experimental object-oriented programming language Self. Although Self is no longer an official project at Sun Microsystems Laboratories, we have seen many of Self's innovations adopted. The Morphic GUI framework has been incorporated into Squeak, and the Virtual Machine ideas provided the initial inspiration for the Java™ HotSpot™ performance engine. However, the language and programming environment have yet to be mined for ideas.

So basically, the tech for the vm and the the GUI have gone into other products, and now the language is offered mostly as a teaching tool/research material.

They have some very interesting ideas though, so if this was passed around some more maybe someone could take some of the languages features/ideas and make something new out of it, or enhance an existing language.

Over all its quite fun to read about.