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Select the most important announcement

  • iPod sales is still growing after all these years

  • iTMS sold 2 billion songs

  • Apple TV

  • iPhone

  • Airport Extreme updated

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chevy

chevy

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Select from the above items what is the most important annoucement for you.
 
Even though I was underwhelmed by the keynote this January, I have to say that the single most important item here is the iPhone, with the AppleTV coming in second.
 
The iPhone is of course the big buzz (and will make big money) but I think the Apple TV (and in a lower extend for the time being Airport Extreme) will do more for the penetration of Apple in the home.
 
Well, if the AppleTV ever drops to around $100, I'll probably buy one. I think $300 is way too much for what's basically a stripped-down, crippled Mini with video out ports and some custom software.

If I ever spend $500 on a phone, it will certainly be an iPhone. But I don't have any kind of cell phone now, and if I did I'd want a basic one (or maybe a more expensive one with a good camera built in, but I don't think there ARE any cell phones with really good cameras).

I do WANT an iPhone, though. It's just damned cool. I've wanted a multi-fingered UI for years. But I really want it on my desktop. Maybe in a few years...
 
I said iPhone, though the second biggest really is the new AirPort Extreme. Think about it: Since Apple launched AirPort, the device has been the same ever since 2000 or so when they introduced it. 7 years the same thing, just updated... ever seen that before at Apple? Even though, when you look at Apple and think of AirPort, automatically _that_ appears in your head, doesnt mean it shouldnt be re-newed, which is what they did a few days ago. Just a shame he didnt include it in the Keynote, btu I guess he had his reasons.
 
MrTAToad said:
iPhone was important until I discovered that its a closed system.
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yeah, Apple really need to ease up on that. THey have been doing well with Macs lately by chipping away the reasons why you would get a PC -- Macs are faster, (sometimes) cheaper, can run windows apps, etc. If they hope to conquer the mobile phone market they have to do the same thing. Palm OS and WIndows Mobile both allow for 3rd party apps, so not offering this on iPhone's OS is a big issue IMO. Also, cingular doesnt help :/

I still have marked the iPhone as the most important, mosty because there really isn't anything else of great significance this year.
 
...and the the reason the iPhone was released was because Windows Mobile and Palm were doing such a good job.

they locked it down to keep the thing secure and stable. there will be amazing third-party software, but it'll have to be developed with apple, and then bought from the iTS. the iPod games thing isn't as spurious a business plan as it first seemed. it's the business model for iPhone software.

also, they mentioned both 'desktop-class apps' and widgets. rudimentary, dashcode widgets with simple Java-script and web access will probably be 3rd party controlled, and manageable, and the truly groundbreaking desktop-class apps be something of an apple-controlled environment.
 
"desktop-class apps" was a buzzword as far as I can see. Hype - nothing else. You _won't_ get anything like a full Safari or Photoshop or Word there, you'll get specialised versions, reduced for mobile use. Which is the exact _opposite_ of "desktop-class". Don't get me wrong: That's a _good_ thing. But it's the hype Apple and Steve Jobs want to build I kinda dislike. Again: I like the iPhone very much and how its interface works etc. - I just don't expect it to become a real MacBook replacement or tablet Mac, like some people would probably expect from a "miniature computer with desktop-class applications".
 
i was trying to be careful to always put 'desktop-class apps' in quotes. yeah they're cut down, but the point is is that they're fully-polished pieces of proper software. with all the correct frameworks to really do cool things. the third party stuff would be in widgets.
 
I understand that. But Apple _could_ - what with all the nice Cocoa and frameworks being available - have _great_ 3rd party application support. They could create a validation service, i.e. you can develop apps that would run on an iPhone, but you'd have to go through Apple for validation, i.e. apps would only run in emulators on Mac OS X. DRM would help here. Apple would still have control of sorts - and users would still get 3rd party apps. I can think of a _ton_ of useful little tools that Apple _won't_ deliver themselves. Lack of market, clearly. But a shareware producer might be happy to have 500 users of a little tool, whereas Apple needs more than a couple thousands to allow development of an app.
 
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