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Eh, didn't the Greeks have something to do with "founding" politics?? ;)

Yeah OK, but why do you keep on ignoring the fact that if I buy a Mac here in the UK it is not imported directly from the US... so what has the EU tariff you mention got to do with anything? In fact, for setting up plants in Ireland, Apple would have received tax concessions and other...

We Brits have a king? ;)

I've found a G4 iMac here in the UK which appears to actually be the US-configuration, looking at the software that comes with it (US English OS X, Quicken Deluxe 2000, AOL, OS X Chess are listed, which don't appear in the UK software list at apple.com). Does anyone know of any issues with...

Monarchy doesn't necessarily = government, but I take your point. ;) You also make a good point with regards marketing. Macs are not recognised as educational or professional machines in the UK at all, they are still associated with "trendy" graphic design shops and the like. Apple's...

I'm a Mac fan and have been even since the 128k came out. I've even owned a Mac for a decade now! That said, I do all my programming on a ThinkPad. And not just 'cos at work we're a Wintel shop: I just know my ageing iMac wouldn't be able to cut it with OS X for Cocoa, Java, etc. OK so my...

Wow, if that's true for all those unsupported scanners... awesome! GraphicConverter is a great application: how does that guy get so many updates out? He puts bigger commercial software houses to shame.

No flames, I'm just intrigued why you'd say that. Surely it's all down to contention rates, selected bandwidth options, and so forth? For example, in the UK most consumer ADSL solutions are 512k downstream, 256k upstream with 50:1 contention. Cable's no different here AFAIK. It's certainly...

Oh, for f*ck's sake -- what did I tell you Paragon??!? :rolleyes:

Well, you can't order a Mac from the US Apple Store because of the way Apple sell their products. Macs and associated software are localised, so that the bundle of software one gets with a new iMac in the US is quite different from that offered in the UK package, not to mention other issues such...

I don't know where you're based, but I've found this website to be a useful reference for all things ADSL -- there's a Mac forum there: http://www.adslguide.org.uk Hope that helps. I don't have ADSL yet, so can't comment on how useful it is, but people seem pretty knowledgeable there.

Agreed, but well, it's never gonna happen. The fact is, Europe, and other territories, are always much worse off than our fellow Apple fans in the US. PeeCee manufacturers can often equliase prices, but it appears Apple can / will not. It's been like ever since I can remember with Apple, and...

Accepted ;) But that's not what I'm saying either... Apple's iMac will not compete with the cheapies. As you say, it's a quality machine, and it will always cost more -- leave that to the old style iMacs that Apple still sell. I'm just saying that even cheap peecees have 17" monitors as a...

Did I say that? I did not. Read my post again. I was talking about screen SIZE, not type. And I ain't a "dude". :D

I'd have any of those... I just need some money! I guess an iPod would come way down on the list... a 17" iMac would be very popular I think, given how well the new iMac has gone, but also bearing in mind most cheapie PCs come with 17" monitors nowadays. And of course, we'd all like a mega...

Does anyone know about the Apple finance deals advertised in their UK store? For example, you can buy the top-end G4 iMac for £1,649 plus delivery, and the store says you can have this for £65.96 per month using the Apple finance package... what the site doesn't tell you, nor is there any way...

Just a warning: the screen break issue is not unique to Handspring... you'll find this with all Palm OS organisers, and probably most PDAs full stop. Replacing screens just costs a lot. However, the m130 does look pretty good if you can't go to a Sony. I have an m100, and am pleased with it...

So am I some kind of necrophiliac? I regularly screw up my iMac using OS 8.6... Hmm. Maybe I should investigate this "OS 9" -- I hear good things about it...

... I'm running OS 8.6! :D

Dead on. The PowerMac has a 133MHz bus, the iMac 100MHz.