10 reasons why I should purchase OS X.1

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Hi Everyone,

I've posted a message in regards to Classic Graphic/Web apps such as Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, etc.. compatible to OS X.

I just like to know 10 reasons why I should purchase the new OS X.1.
If I beleive your reasons are worth the value of the purchase, I might get it and learn the new GUI. Otherwise, I'll be content with Mac OS 9.1 for now..

Happy New Year Everyone and Take Good Care of yourself.
Thanh.
 
-Illustrator 10 is compatible with os 10 and 9... (and is much better that v.9)

-You can run all other apps in Classic or reboot in os 9 while still having X installed on your HD

-It doesn't crash (ok, maybe 1-2 times a year)

-You don't have to manually set memory allocations (not even when running os 9 apps in Classic)

-You can use the AMAZING OmniWeb web browser that underlines my spelling mistakes as i write this message.

-You can run ALL your apps at the same time (or as many as you need) at the same time without worrying about extension conflicts/crashes.

-It looks F*** amazing

-As i said before, if you need to do something critical you can, for now, only do in os 9, you can always just keep it and reboot in it to do your thing.

-It will give you a chance to learn UNIX/Linux and the command line

-It runs Quake 3 AMAZING (while you have a web server/mail-client/slash other app running at the same time in the background)

-You don't have to wait during installations (you can do other things/more installs than one at the same time)

-You can experiment and learn new scripting languages like php and Perl cuz now you can run them on your computer

-App development for os 9 is beginning to stop (I don't know what Quark is doing standing around a sinking ship!)

-The interface usability ROCKS (in the "column" file/folder view)

-You'll hate, then love, the dock

That's about it for now... Photoshop, GoLive, etc. are coming in 2002 anyway...

P.S.

some things may seem slower in X than 9, but that's what you get from technological advancements, the need for more power, it's inevitable. (or the soft dev will release updates that fix the problem [right OmniGroup? :)])
 
I'll chime in:

pre-emptive multitasking - In OS9 when one app misbehaves all the other apps are helpless without CPU time. In OSX the operating system controls who gets CPU time so a badly behaved app can not cause major problems.

posix compliant - This means that the world of unix apps will open up to OSX. Now one of the complaints against Apple, lack of apps, will be reduced.
 
q3a sucks on my compo, so does UT (both in X)

they run better in 9. Partly because theyre 9 based apps.
and yes multitasking owns compared to 9
 
I would like to caution you guys --- you STILL have to allocate memory to applications... EVEN when running them in the Classic environment!! Classic applications do not take advantage of the advanced memory allocation of OS X, and therefore have to be given memory manually like usual.

The way you allocate memory to Classic applications is the same -- you get info on it in the OS X Finder, click the popup menu and drag to "Memory", and set the minimum and preferred memory size for that application.

So this is still a drawback for Classic applications, but many applications have Carbon counterparts, so you can just download those versions. Then you won't have to deal with memory allocation.
 
you haven't told us what kind of mac-chine you want to put osx on. while most recent machines support it rather favorably, it is possible that you own one where you might be better off to save the money right now and get a whole new mac with osx installed after you have waited a little longer. but assuming you have the right hardware, then osx is just nicer. it's different than 9, but once you adjust to the differences then it beats 9 hands down. and there are plenty of little haxies you can add to make it more like 9 so you don't go crazy from missing your habitual ways of doing certain things. if you use firewire anything, then osx will run it so much faster and smoother than 9 that you will never want to go back. of course practically never having to reboot except to update the system and NEVER getting a bomb are pretty good reasons as well. basically anything you can do in osx, you can do better in osx than in 9. basically.:)
 
Originally posted by vanguard
posix compliant - This means that the world of unix apps will open up to OSX. Now one of the complaints against Apple, lack of apps, will be reduced.
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Mac OS X is not POSIX compliant. It's close, but nowhere fully compliant.
 
What about the main reason to purchase apple software? To support Apple. I know that my $100 or $100 isn't going to make or break Apple but, every copy they sell shows there's another user.
 
Originally posted by starfleetX
Mac OS X is not POSIX compliant. It's close, but nowhere fully compliant.
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Your post got me interested. I did a quick google search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=darwin+posix+compliant&btnG=Google+Search

and started reading. While the overwhelming majority of the articles described Darwin to be posix compliant I did find a couple of articles explaining that it wasn't "fully" posix complaint (which, btw, I never claimed it was)

I saw a letter from Justin Walker, a manager from Apple's core OS group. Here's a quote:
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POSIX support is important, but we're not committing to POSIX branding. We'll be as compliant as we can, but we may elect to be "out of spec" in specific instances, based on other considerations (us being a business and all). One reason for using the Darwin base for Mac OS X is to make this job easier, and to simplify the work of staying in step with the industry.
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However, that letter is over a year old. More recent activity shows that the apple developers are spending time keeping up with the posix standard.

This link from apple: http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/tour/darwin.html describes the OS as being posix compliant.

Anyway, now I know more about darwin's compliance than I ever thought I would bother to learn.
 
I reread my last post and felt like I left out some important things.

It seems that most operating systems (OSX, Linux, and NT based Windows) are posix compliant for practical purposes but not for branding purposes. To be "fully" posix compliant you have to have all your i's dotted and t's crossed. Most OSes don't bother to implement infrequently used API's.

So while OSX may not meet all the branding requirements, it is compliant for practical and as compliant as most of the OSes out there. At least that what I learned while I was researching the issue.
 
I can't really subscribed to the "10 reasons" ideology, but deciding whether or not you should upgrade to OS X can come down to these factors...

First - is your Mac recent enough that it makes sense? Most people with a computer less than a G4/400 with 512MB of RAM have a tendency to feel like OS X doesn't run as fast as OS 9 on their machines. It's all subjective though, because I'm sure you can also find people on this board who have G3/300's with 256mb of RAM who claim OS X runs fasted than OS 9. Your mileage may vary...

Second - Illustrator X is carbonized and runs great in OS X. Photoshop will be carbonized by March. Flash and Dreamweaver still aren't, and Macromedia has yet to say when. We will probably (hopefully) get info on these and other MM apps next week. Currently, I run Dreamweaver and Flash in Classic. Dreamweaver runs just fine, however, Flash isn't quite as snappy, but definitely useable.

Basically, if you are itching to run X, it makes sense if 1) you have the computer power, 2) you can currently make due with running Classic apps in classic mode, 3) you have the money to upgrade to the carbonized apps when they are release real soon.
 
Hey Everyone,

First of all, thanks for your feedback. Yes, I finally upgrade my Cube to OS X.1 over the weekend. Wow, I'm in awwww over the GUI and the way the OS handles the memory management, very stable.
Since, I'm very new to OS X, it will probably take a week or two to get use to all the tidbits that OS X has to offer.

My main concern regarding the new OS X is that I wouldn't be able to use my classic apps to the fullest, which is essential for the design projects that I'm doing for freelance clients. From reading your postings, it made me feel at ease...

1. Here's a posting by Vic that got me curious....
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-It will give you a chance to learn UNIX/Linux and the command line

-You can experiment and learn new scripting languages like php and Perl cuz now you can run them on your computer
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Can you recommend a good book in learning UNIX/Linux command lines and how to use/experiment on OS X.


2. Here's a posting by vanguard that got me curious....
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posix compliant - This means that the world of unix apps will open up to OSX. Now one of the complaints against Apple, lack of apps, will be reduced.
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That sounds pretty cool..

3. Thanks for the posting by serpicolugnut, it was probably the reason I was looking for...

Now, I've notice there's another upgrade for OS X.1, it's OS X.1.2. Is there anything I need to know before I upgrade to the latest.

One last thing, how did you guys put a pic below your nickname..

Thanks a bunch!!!
 
Welcome to the party pal!

Go to your user prefernces and you'll see the option to add an avatar.

The only thing you should know about 10.1.2 is that it increases stability and performance. I'd recommend applying it.
 
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