Ahhh!!! The Hell Of Firewire!!!

solrac

Mac Ninja
WHY?????

Today my external firewire hard drive stopped showing up on my desktop. I tried connecting it to both of its firewire ports. Then I tried using the iPod's firewire cable. No change.

But connecting the iPod directly to my computer works fine. The iPod shows up.

And taking the hard drive to my other mac works fine. The hard drive shows up.

So, the hard drive is not broken. It works fine on the other mac. My firewire port is not broken. The iPod works fine.

What the hell is it????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!!!!!!!
 
you need to run Diskwarrior on your internal drive. almost 90% of the time when i have a recognition problem with my fw hd's it's due to problems with my main hd. sometimes both need fixing, but usually everything goes back to normal after the main is fixed. one trick with diskwarrior (and yes you're going to need to boot to os 9 to run it), is that if you launch it and then plug in your problem drive, 99% of the time it will find it and be able to repair it which might do the trick, but i'm guessing the main drive is the problem if the fw drive works on the other mac.
 
Diskwarrior is not an option.....
I rm -rf'ed OS 9 a while ago. I will try several disk utility programs EXCEPT NORTON ANYTHING on my disk and see what comes up.... fingers crossed....
 
The disk warior CD is OS9 bootable. It has a copy on the CD. I also keep a bare bones copy of OS 9 and disk warrior right on the iPod for emergencies.

No Mac user should be without disk warrior.
 
well, you can wait about 4-5 weeks and and an os x native version of diskwarrior should be out.

this is the biggest reason i keep os 9 around - to run diskwarrior to solve this problem when it arises - primarily following power outages.
 
Has Apple released the "bare bones" X option yet. I heard it was going to be license free for companies and individuals to create bootable media.
 
wow i never knew diskwarrior was so powerful and respected. Well, I should get a bootable CD of it, an OS 9 CD....

I'll post what luck I have with that... hopefully it fixes it!
 
Most of us have been burned numerous times by Norton. Apple's disk utility only scratches the surface and fails to repair many problems.

Instead of trying to repair, disk warrior rebuilds. The rebuild process optimizes as well.

Geesh I sound like a commercial.
 
The rebuild process optimizes as well

it optimizes the directory, it does not defragment. you need plus optimizer for that.

solrac - i can only tell you that i discovered diskwarrior when i first experienced this problem. i worked for 2 days with testuser's help while trying techtool pro, drive 10 and even norton with no results. finally testy suggested that i might want to try out diskwarrior as many people swear by it. so i did and 20 mins after running it on my internal drive, all was fixed. i've been a believer ever since.
 
Disk Warior has never let me down (even when things were so bad that fsck (after booting in single user mode) would not even recognize the disk!

it does not work on whatever disk you are booting from, so if you want to repair the boot volume you have to boot from another drive (or the disk warrior CD)
 
i could've sworn I paid around $80 or so for diskwarrior a long time ago. I need to find out what I did with that downloadable software.... argh...

I probably deleted it along with everything to do with OS 9 but it's probably backed up somewhere. Maybe if I call alsoft, they can help me out...
 
i find the disk warrior and Tech Tool are a grat combo and both are coming out with X versions soon ^^
 
oh jeeeeeez
why is this so screwed? Now the firewire drive won't come up on my powerbook or my old G3 with a firewire card.

God....

The iPod works fine on both computers. I'm not quite sure a hard drive problem would've come up on BOTH computers at the SAME time, both with very fresh clean installs of 10.2.3. This is so bogus.

Can't wait to get diskwarrior, but now I doubt that it will help.
 
don't forget what i said before. go ahead and launch diskwarrior and then plug in your drive. diskwarrior should find it and be able to repair it. it's the only utility i know of that will do this. i just went thru this again about a month ago - just before xmas. and all 3 of my drives are back to normal operation now.

i know you've argued with me in the past about the need to keep os 9 around. i can only say i'm sorry that you chose not to listen to me. for however much we argue about 'stuff', i hate seeing you or anybody else in this situation. i'm just hoping that the new os x version of diskwarrior works as well as the current one. then we can all feel a little safer about letting go of classic. i hope it works for you solrac.
 
well..
i have os 9 on the CDs that came with my computer. I could install it in like 20 minutes...
 
i have os 9 on the CDs that came with my computer. I could install it in like 20 minutes...

Should never have uninstalled this damn stable OS, with over 10 years of hardware/software experience !

I'm very worried about those Macs without OS9. Is it still possible to install OS9 and to run it on them ?
 
if you can start up from an os 9 startup disk, all you need is to have disk warrior on another disk to run it. in other words, boot with os 9 startupdisk, launch DW from your HD. plug the bad drive in. repair it. now copy diskwarrior to the repaired FW drive. run it from there to repair your main drive. that should be all you need. i don't think you need to install os 9.
 
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