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Appletalk
- Thread starter boodoon
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I found a post on one of the boards that makes Appletalk the default for MacOS X filesharing and now it shows up in the chooser of MacOS 9 machines.
Somebody also said that DP4 was able to see Appletalk shares via the Connect to Network dialog. So there must be a way to make the beta do it.
Ninners
Somebody also said that DP4 was able to see Appletalk shares via the Connect to Network dialog. So there must be a way to make the beta do it.
Ninners
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As mentioned above, appletalk works only over TCP / IP. In a nutshell, here are the ramifications of that:
For this example, let's pretend that you are on a network with other macs using appletalk.
A mac running OS 9 or less can connect to your OS X machine by 1) opening the chooser, 2) clicking connect to server, 3) entering the appropriate IP #. As of now, from a machine running something other than OS X, there seems to be no way to browse a netwrok of macs like you used to be able to do in the chooser.
What about the other way around (OSX -> machine running other than OSX)? There seems to be no way to connect right now in that direction, unless you are running ASIP.
How about OSX --> OSX? If you have multiple machines running OSX, if you select "Connect to server" from the go menu, your appletalk servers will show up in your local neighboorhood (assuming that they have Appletalk activated). They will show up by appletalk name, and their IP # will be in the connect box. I haven't tried this on an extended network, just here at home, where the other machines show up in "Local Services".
Whew!
One last point: What is with the "Network" icon found after the "Computer" button has been pressed? I remember reading at apple's site that you could use this to browse your local neighborhood, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Presumably, both here and in the "Connect to server" dialog you will at some point be able to select your "neighborhood". Gag. Sounds like windoze.
Okay one more point. It is not necessary to edit the hostconfig file via the terminal.. Just open up "System Preferences", Click on "Network", give your computer a clever name, and check "appleTalk active". That's it. This GUI will update the /etc/hostconfig file for you. Just thought you'd like to know...
For this example, let's pretend that you are on a network with other macs using appletalk.
A mac running OS 9 or less can connect to your OS X machine by 1) opening the chooser, 2) clicking connect to server, 3) entering the appropriate IP #. As of now, from a machine running something other than OS X, there seems to be no way to browse a netwrok of macs like you used to be able to do in the chooser.
What about the other way around (OSX -> machine running other than OSX)? There seems to be no way to connect right now in that direction, unless you are running ASIP.
How about OSX --> OSX? If you have multiple machines running OSX, if you select "Connect to server" from the go menu, your appletalk servers will show up in your local neighboorhood (assuming that they have Appletalk activated). They will show up by appletalk name, and their IP # will be in the connect box. I haven't tried this on an extended network, just here at home, where the other machines show up in "Local Services".
Whew!
One last point: What is with the "Network" icon found after the "Computer" button has been pressed? I remember reading at apple's site that you could use this to browse your local neighborhood, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Presumably, both here and in the "Connect to server" dialog you will at some point be able to select your "neighborhood". Gag. Sounds like windoze.
Okay one more point. It is not necessary to edit the hostconfig file via the terminal.. Just open up "System Preferences", Click on "Network", give your computer a clever name, and check "appleTalk active". That's it. This GUI will update the /etc/hostconfig file for you. Just thought you'd like to know...
Hmm... Try this: (at your own risk, of course)
Open up a terminal window.
appletalk -u en0
atlookup
Gee, those don't look like TCP/IP addresses. Yes, MacOS X certainly does have AppleTalk, just not active in this beta. At Drexel U, we only recently stopped using AppleTalk. It works just fine until you start to hit a few thousand machines. After that, the IT people said it became too "chatty" which was basically an excuse to get rid of Macs.
I'll let you guess what 'appleping' and 'mount_afp' do...
Open up a terminal window.
appletalk -u en0
atlookup
Gee, those don't look like TCP/IP addresses. Yes, MacOS X certainly does have AppleTalk, just not active in this beta. At Drexel U, we only recently stopped using AppleTalk. It works just fine until you start to hit a few thousand machines. After that, the IT people said it became too "chatty" which was basically an excuse to get rid of Macs.
I'll let you guess what 'appleping' and 'mount_afp' do...