God Bless America...

Originally posted by hazmat
No offense taken, but I see a little ignorance in your post, unless I am mistaken. California is not a city, and New York in this case is the state, not the city. The article specifically says Guilderland (Albany). That is about three hours north of NYC.

Sorry,I was in a hurry when posting...boss was on the floor. :eek:

When I said Cali, I meant the whole state. As far as New York, mainly the bigger cities (NYC in particular). It amazes me how anti-American some of these cities/states are in terms of attitudes and policies.


A mall is a public place, even if privately owned. They have to ban ALL t-shirts then to be legal. It's a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. Had they been actively attempting to "protest", maybe there would have been a case there...but passive protest by wearing a shirt isn't enough to warrant what was done.
 
If I went to a peecee store in THAT mall wearing an Apple t-shirt, would I get arrested? :D
 
The phenomenon of the gated community is not uniquely American I am sure but its rise in popularity over the last 15 years is extremely scary. Malls are but one example of this. It is sort of funny because it is basically what a lot of Americans would consider communist behavior. IE if I move into a gated community, I can only paint my house a certain color, can't park my boat on the driveway, the curtains in the windows have to be a certain color, I am not allowed to place political signs on my property, etc, etc,. While I am sure that we would all agree that the aesthetics of the above prohibitions are very good, the fact that we are willingly giving up our freedom of expression in exchange for a perceived sense of security is very scary.

Is it that way where you are Gia and the rest of you outside North America or are we the only ones?
 
Maybe one of the worst things about the whole thing (Bush, USA, Saddam, Iraq, the world) right now is that it polarizes so much and so extremely.

For example, if the US (the regime, not all of its citizens) had chosen to do all of this through the UN instead of using propaganda and media from the very beginning to hype the necessity for this war, maybe they would have been able to clearly define why a strong intervention in Iraq is necessary.

With the banner of a 'war against terrorism' on their back and only 'one way to go' and 'you can be with or against us', there's no room left for people. They've pushed everyone into a decision here. And they didn't think so many people all around the world would choose 'against you'.

I hope that the outcome will urge Bush and consorts to act more wisely in the future.
 
Perfect quote from fryke:
"I hope that the outcome will urge Bush and consorts to act more wisely in the future."

100% my opinion.
 
who was it that said something like

"love your country always, love your government when they deserve it"

anyways i love this saying, i love america for the most part, but damn do the people in charge of it irk me right now....
 
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