[HOWTO] - DVD Player 3.0 on B&W G3's

Darkshadow

wandering shadow
From xlr8yourmac.com:

DVDs Playing on my B&W G3 with OS X 10.1 Player Mod! - Here's How: -

I can now say that the mod noted earlier today does work, at least on a B&W G3. I have a B&W G3 with a PCI Radeon card and the original DVD-ROM drive. As I'm typing this a DVD movie is playing on it with OS X 10.1's DVD Player. Here's how I did it:

I could find the Essentials.pax.pkg, but not a "Essentials.pkg.gz" file that was noted in a reader post below. Since I own several Macs that are "supported" by the 10.1 DVD player, I made a copy of the DVD player from a G4/AGP system here.


1. Running OS 9 (not Classic mode), I made a duplicate of the DVD Player.app - which makes it appear as a folder vs a file in OS 9. (Hexedit can't open the player.app "file"). (I did this part of the work on a G4/AGP with OS 9.2.1 and OS X installed on the same volume. One reader noted duplicating the DVD player.app did not make it a folder - but I tested this twice - it does here on this Mac, repeatably. If you can't get that to work see below this post for another option.)


2. Using Hexedit I opened the "DVD Player" file that's in the Contents/MacOS folder. Using the Find command I searched for the string "PowerMac2" to find the listing of "PowerMac2.1,.."


3. I changed the "2" in "PowerMac2,1" to "1" (i.e. now reading "PowerMac1,1") and saved the file.
(The image below shows where I found "PowerMac2,1" in the file and changed it to "PowerMac1,1".)

[I'm linking to the image from their site...this may or may not stay]:



(Note - PowerMac1,1 works for the B&W G3. For other Macs boot into OF as noted in the post below to see the PowerMac ID, if the 1,1 code does not work. Note - A Lombard G3/333 Owner said his ID was PowerBook1,1 but the mod did not work on that system which had a VST DVD drive.)


4. I then renamed the "DVD Player.app copy" folder to "DVD Player.app" and it "changes" back to a single file icon. I copied that file to the B&W G3's OS X 10.1 Applications folder

Of course I then launched the DVD Player and inserted a DVD movie to verify it worked. So far so good. I have not tested with the original Rage128 card, but I suspect that would not matter This B&W G3 has an OWC G4/500 installed right now for review tests, but the CPU type should not matter with the changes above.
What I'd be curious to know is if the RageProLT (Lombard and Wallstreet2) or RageLT (Original Wallstreet) graphics chips would work with this mod. If any owners try that - let me know. (I do not have OS X installed on my Wallstreet.)  

Note: If duplicating the DVD Player.app does not make the copy a folder, try this reader tip:

" I copied the DVD Player.app from my Firewire G3 Powerbook and transferred it to my B&W. Then I placed it in the Applications (OSX) Folder. Right-clicking on the file brings up the menu, then I selected "show package contents". From there I opened the "contents" "mac os" folders, and then opened the DVD Player with HexEdit and did the mod."
 

AdmiralAK

Simply Daemonic
I would be more than glad to test it out with the original rage 128 card ;)

Can this player be download it ?
Is it "small" enough to be send by email ?
Can you distribute it ?


Thanks!
 

Darkshadow

wandering shadow
Heh, this isn't from me, it's from xlr8yourmac.com. I was just posting it here for you guys cause I've seen y'all (mainly you :p) wanting a patch or hack that will let the DVD Player run on B&W G3s.

I happen to have a G4/450 (from last year)...DVD Player works fine for me. I do, however, have HexEdit, and can apply this patch if you want me to. I don't have a place to put it, though. I'll do the patch, and if you're still on, I'll PM ya.
 

ThE OutsiDer

Registered
I tried it on my G3 400MHZ B/W with ATI 128n and it works! Get it at Classic Gamer on Carracho.
Just type in "roms" in the tracker search window.
Its in the "OSX file of the day" folder...
 

Red Phoenix

Registered
For those who can't or aren't willing to find go and search for a hacked version of the DVD player, here's a couple of steps that aren't included either here or at www.xlr8yourmac.com . They are specific to the MacOS X.I updater CD and I'm assuming you have 300+ MB free on your OS X partition, but it ought to be easily modified:

Insert the update CD. Open the terminal and type:

cp /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ CD/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg/Contents/Resources/Essentials.pax.gz ~/Desktop/

and then, after that's all done:

cd ~/Desktop/; gzip -d Essentials.pax.gz

Again, after that's all done, type:

pax -f Essentials.pax -r ./Applications/DVD\ Player.app

When this is done, you can clean up the Desktop by typing

rm Essentials.pax Essentials.pax.gz

We can temporarily leave the Terminal alone for now. On your desktop should be a new folder called "Applications". Inside there is the DVD player. Instead of booting into OS 9, just control or right-click on the DVD player icon, and select "Show Package Contents". Open Contents/MacOS, and there's the DVD program itself. Edit this as the instructions say to.

When done, go back to the Terminal, and type:

chmod 755 Applications/DVD\ Player.app/Contents/MacOS/DVD\ Player

You can then copy the DVD Player.app into your Applications folder, and delete the new folder on your desktop.
 

Darkshadow

wandering shadow
Hmm, you don't have to copy the pax file to your HD, you can leave it right on the CD by doing this command instead:

gunzip -c /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ CD/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg/Contents/Resources/Essentials.pax.gz | pax -r ./Applications/DVD\ Player.app

A little note: This will create a new folder named Applications wherever you happen to be in the terminal when you do this. So if you want it to appear on your Desktop, do this before the above command:

cd ~/Desktop

The only bad thing about doing it this way is that it takes a small eternity to extract the DVD Player.app from it. :p
 

Red Phoenix

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Yeah, that's true, I didn't think of it that way. I did most of that in the GUI, and so it didn't occur to me. Good point (and probably faster than the way I did it.)
 

AdmiralAK

Simply Daemonic
Hmmm
I tried it.

Now I know I got some parts correct coz I saw the control module (you know it has the play, stop , ejct and so on buttons on it) but it tells me that my computer is not supported :eek: !!!!!

What could be wrong ???
(Maybe teh fact that I have upgraded my DVD's firmware? that shouldnt cause any problems :mad: )

Anyone got a version that they feel like sharing?:rolleyes:
 

kbray

Registered
The second download works on my Beige G3 with Radeon PCI and Toshiba DVD Rom.

cool.
 

jdennison

Registered
ok, the other guy with the beige G3 got a version that worked... what did they do to get it to work???? the Open Firmware doesn't give me a name that seems to fit into any of the strings....
either fill me in on what change needs to be made to work, or just tell me where I can downlaod that version of the hacked player...

thanks,
JSd <><
 

AdmiralAK

Simply Daemonic
Sorry it took so long to reply :)

No it did not work for me :(
It still says "machine is not supported" ... oy!
 

SWFalcon

Registered
You can download an unhacked copy of Apple's DVD Player (1.72MB) here.
If you're having problems, remember there are two places in the code you change PowerMac 2,1 to, for B&Ws, 1,1 or for Yikes G4s, 1,2; the places are located right under each other. Be sure to boot into OS 9 and use a hex editor like HexEdit and do a Find search.
The hack works beautifully on my 400Mhz B&W G3 with a PCI Radeon and is reported to work with Rage 128s. :)
Now why do you think we have to apply this simple hack in the first place? What is going on in Steve's mind? Forcing people to upgrade their computers just to play DVDs seems so, dare I say, Microsoftian.
 

AdmiralAK

Simply Daemonic
Thanks I will download it tomorrow ;)

On an aside note... is your avatar the "Ka-click-a-chu" pokemon ??? ;)
Super powers inclusing the X-er and the dock-er ? that is a rare catch ;)


Admiral
 

jdennison

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well, I got the beige version from Ker[nal]+che's yahoo briefcase place. it runs... it's a little jumpy on my beige 233, but I'm thinkin' that if it were to truly call on my Radeon PCI, it would do a little better. Dinosaur plays smoother in the OSX DVD player than it does in the OS9 version, but "Where the Heart Is" is glitches at an ugly rate in OSX and plays perfectly in OS9... quite a kanundrum. eh?

well, moo for now!
JSD <><
 

Allanon131

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Originally posted by kbray
The second download works on my Beige G3 with Radeon PCI and Toshiba DVD Rom.

cool.
Hehe...

Thats the setup I have too...

Beige G3 233
512MB RAM
80GB HD
Mac OS 9.2.2, OS X 10.1, and Mandrake Linux 8.0
Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM
Yamaha 16x10x40 CDRW
Sony Spressa USB 4x4x6 CDRW
Radeon PCI
Wired 4DVD Decoder
USB Card

Ive upgraded everything except the processor..

I need to put a Revision B or C ROM chip in there so I can use everything at once on the IDE busses..

Does anyone know where I can find one??

I'll have to give the DVD player a try though... Just for the heck of it to see if it can be done on an old 233 G3, since the Wired 4DVD decoder doesnt work under OS X......

Oh well.....:)
 

kbray

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Get the processor upgrade. I have an XLR8 500hz G3. (Will work without software in X.) Video on DVD is smooth.

:)
 
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