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ohhh.. i guess thats why none of the experienced users around here care to answer to cellsifh anymore.

well. it was fun reading his posts, hes in his own little lonely world. i think ill ignore him for now :)
 
I use XP at work professionally and OS X at home and also professionally when my boss isn't looking. That's because OS X suits me better. I can get all tasks done much faster. If you're wondering what I do, its programming back-end systems. Mainly using Java as the programming language and database systems ranging from DB2 and Oracle to MySQL. So to say you can't programm a back-end system with OS X is ludicrous to say the least. But the original poster is correct in saying you can achieve these tasks using XP. Personally, I wouldn't choose XP over OS X. But the nice thing about diversity is that you CAN choose. Perhaps XP is just the better system for that person.

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I'm still a defender of the multi-platform computer user/developer. If you can, use a desktop PC (for gaming, linux server, Windows development and Office) and an Apple portable (for actual work and on the way).

If you're on a broadband connection, you can then use dyndns.org (or a similar service) to use your PC (or your second PC) with Linux as a staging server as well as as a mail server that gets all your E-Mail. Your notebook can then access that server in order to get the mail. Total freedom, baby.

Plus: Your computer experience will grow automatically, as you'll not only learn at least two operating systems, but will also learn to interoperate between them, as the server can also act as a file backup system for your notebook. Cool, eh?

No need to turn your back to any platform, really. They all serve their purpose. You'll want to upgrade/replace the PC(s) faster (because it's cheaper) than the Apple notebook, but that's okay, too. The notebooks will last longer, anyway.

Another advantage of such a setup: display sharing. Get a really great desktop screen for the PC(s) (the server doesn't really need one once it's set up and running) and a monitor switcher. So at home, you can connect the notebook to that screen, too, to get real work done better on the notebook.
 
Originally posted by fryke
I'm still a defender of the multi-platform computer user/developer. If you can, use a desktop PC (for gaming, linux server, Windows development and Office) and an Apple portable (for actual work and on the way).
etc etc

OK, say Halleluja everybody, and say AMEN.

I think most productive people see it this way. Integration, the way of the universe.
 
I'm still waiting for Apple and Microsoft to make their respective OS's compatible with any computer hardware.

As for the database question, I have no idea. What's wrong with Filemaker Pro? Wrong use?

As for the cellfish issue, he's just a lying, Windows-using worm with nothing to back up his arguments except his own exaggerated or pathetic experiences who's constantly looking for a fight and needs to be ignored or banned from this site. So either a) fuel his fire, fight every point he makes down to the dirt between the cracks, until he gives up and goes away, or b) ignore him until he gives up and goes away.
 
Funny... In the last 5 months I did just the opposite. I got rid of my Windows 2000 server, which I was using for ColdFusion + SQL. I've converted all of my site to PHP + MySQL. (I've also failed to get ColdFusion running under OS X... mostly due to lack of time to futz around.)

The few remining things that I need Windows for I use under Virtual PC.

I now only have my Mac at home... (Plus my work TiBook :)) I fully expected that I'd end up buying another PeeCee, but so far I have not had any reason to.
 
windows for games
linux to serve
the mac to create!

btw: i would have used ehm, xserve, instead of linux, but i can't afford it, right now. anyhow the pc's are currently pretty fast. if the speed of the macs improve, i'm all for it as a production server. (it's easier to maintain: u don't really do much, lol). but for now it's linux.
 
Originally posted by Captain Code
There are so many databases available to OSX, that you have no reason for switching based on that alone.
You have MySQL(good for most medium sized things), PostgreSQL, Oracle, and many others.

The only thing available on Windoze is MSSQL Server, which is about the crappiest database server there is.

I know, I've had to use it for school. The POS couldn't even handle the end of year load when students were scrambling to finish their projects. And this was with a limit of 10 open connections at a time on the MSSQL Server.::ha::

Of course an MS technology like ASP won't run on OSX:rolleyes:

Right now boxen like RS/6000, Sun, and HP are significantly better for database serving. It sounds likes the problems you had are more related to ASP use? ASP sucks so bad even M$ is recommending that you keep it's use to a minimum. I've had reasonable results from relatively heavy SQLServer usage (80-100 connections, and serving webservers with 2000+ users). Of course you'll need decent hardware to do it, but that's no different than any other database server, they're all written to be resource hogs, and you gotta feedum to keepum happy.

Oh, to clarify, you can get SQLServer, Oracle, PostgresSQL, DB2, MySQL, Sybase, and many/any others on Windoze (e.g. oo databases). AAMOF, I don't know of any server that is availble on the major *nix platforms that you can't get for Windoze (not that they are necessarily all that well supported or optimized on Windoze, but they'll gladly take your money).

I don't know about OSX, since I haven't done any serious db stuff, but I do know that you can do whatever client stuff you would want/need to using Windoze. Everyone has drivers and clients, no problems. Most of the bigboys also have downloadable "development" or "evaluation" versions of the full blown servers you can download. So if you're needing to do enterprise level db work, Windoze is a good platform to choose. Again, OSX might be as well, I'm just not familiar enough to say. Linux doesn't have full support by all the manuf. yet, so it's more spotty depending on which server you're trying to connect to, etc. The other *nix boxen tend to lean towards their own servers or Oracle (e.g. AIX and DB2).

Oh, and a word on an OS being "crashproof". I have to reset my Pismo about twice a week (10.2.6). OSX is certainly not immune to having apps run amok and really hose things. Not saying that Win2k/XP is any better or worse, it's just that OSX isn't perfect either. Anyone have any comments on OSX Server? Isn't that what Apple still recommends for server'esque usage anyway?
 
Originally posted by arden
As for the cellfish issue, he's just a lying, Windows-using worm with nothing to back up his arguments except his own exaggerated or pathetic experiences who's constantly looking for a fight and needs to be ignored or banned from this site. So either a) fuel his fire, fight every point he makes down to the dirt between the cracks, until he gives up and goes away, or b) ignore him until he gives up and goes away.

See? This is the exact problem with Apple users and probably the reason Apple will eventually die. You can't acknowledge the possibility that your OS sucks. If Steve Jobs says it's magical and perfect, no matter what your experiences are, you will also say it's magical and perfect.

Anyways, you guys are absolutely pathetic. Keep on fighting the losing fight and keep on spending tons and tons of money for inferior products. If Apple is the BMW of computers, I'm still wondering why its keyboard and trackpad suddenly decided to stop working on me. At least the HONDA of computers allows me to repair it if anything ever goes wrong, I guess BMW doesn't allow for that to happen.

Andre
 
I do not acknowledge that the Mac platform sucks because I do not think it does. I don't know what kinds of experience you have had with Macs (aside from the problems you complain about), but you are really annoying me.

A) You complain about problems on the Mac that don't happen to most people and equate them to all Macs. Just because you bought a lemon doesn't mean all Macs are lemons. A few, maybe, but not all.
B) You come here, to a Macintosh forum, and whine and complain that Macs suck and Windows is God. I don't know of anybody on this board who goes to a Windows support site (if they even have these) and whines and complains that Mac is superior to Windows. We are here because we choose to be here, we chose to use Macintosh, we are happy with our decisions, and we are not going to change just because you have a better experience on Windows than Mac. Read the posts people have written saying that they have problems with Windows. Are you denying them these problems?

Please go away and stop trolling here. We are really getting fed up with you mouthing off. This will be the last time I respond to any more of your crap, so get the message and get the hell out. Why do you need to come here if you don't even use Macs anyway?
 
Originally posted by cellfish
Anyways, you guys are absolutely pathetic.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by cellfish
[BIf Apple is the BMW of computers, I'm still wondering why its keyboard and trackpad suddenly decided to stop working on me.[/B]

Best idea would be taking a look under the keyboard and see if any of the cables are damaged, or if they are actually plugged in at all. It's covered under "how to install ram" in your service manual.

Originally posted by cellfish
At least the HONDA of computers allows me to repair it if anything ever goes wrong, I guess BMW doesn't allow for that to happen.

Andre

Did you call them?
My powerbook was all scratched up and the paint came off, and they replaced all of the casing, including trackpad assembly, in 8 days :)
 
enough guys, i can not mod this, but enough... this whole insult each other because you dont like the other's OS is, IMHO ridiculous. read the site rules, there are no personal insults allowed here... anywhere.

place nice :p
 
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