In 1996.

Lt Major Burns said:
well, some people had pinned hopes on it being what MS were saying it was going to be, the biggest update since windows 95. ie, new from the ground up. when in actual fact, it's windows xp with graphical bloat. the registry exists, so it's still fundamentally flawed. it still uses the 30 year old paradigm of sharing common files to keep application smaller, when it's such an insignificant difference now, but is inherent in how windows works now.

Well, I can't do anything but agree with that. And thinking about it, I am amazed how NEW Mac OS X 1.4 is compared to 10.0. Or let's face it, different from 10.3. Most Windows using folks won't notice that, because to them, Aqua is still Aqua, and there's no change in the operating system as long as the same user interface is being used ;-). Looking at http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars/13 , I am somewhat proud to be using an operating system that acutally progress as time goes by.
 
however: the user model has changed. that's an important first step. maybe in 10-15 years, windows will become a real operating system.
 
i was thinking today that OSX is getting dated. they are resorting to tacking on the latest gimmicks instead of thinking them through properly. spotlight is the best example.

it's supposedly completly buried in the system, and instant, but i disagree, i don't see it being that much faster than the search on Panther. the overall implentation seems half arsed too, there are at least 3 main ways to access spotlight, all varying in the way you have to use them, and all of them are clunky in some way. it's just not finished, it's not thought through enough. using spotlight has never seemed natural to me.

and don't even get me started on Dashboard. most people try to justify this gimmick, but it is, at the end of the day, Bloat, like a lot of apple software recently.

i think that may be the point of this post. apple software appears to be just bloat updates in the last couple of years. (definitive example being the iTunes Mini Store)


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"not that much faster than search on Panther"... You kidding? It's like walking through jelly compared to how fast I could find a file by its name in Panther!! But we're straying off-topic... ;)

I guess Leopard will take care of some concerns. I hear the Finder's gonna be good.
 
Folk's, for the sake of argument and to maintain the quality of this board: We have different views of some tuff. Mainly because we're not sharing each others machines. That no criminal act, and there are parts of OS X that I too think is bloat, and there are things that I think are as far off to bloat as anything.
 
Lt Major Burns said:
i was thinking today that OSX is getting dated. they are resorting to tacking on the latest gimmicks instead of thinking them through properly. spotlight is the best example.

I can somewhat agree with this. As much as I love Tiger, it could be argued that many of the updates from Jag were gimmicks. In my view, spotlight is wonderful, and one of the brightest ideas in awhile, from any computer company.
I truly hope that Apple comes out with Leopard, and it has less gimmicks and more beef. As fryke stated, the Finder needs work, I hope Apple focuses on a refined Finder for future releases.
In case of Microsoft, I think in some ways they have buried themselves a deep hole with their technology for Windows. I was under the impression early on that Longhorn(vista) was going to be a totally new OS, with a fresh look & feel. As stated, and even from die-hard PC people, that Vista is just XP with some gimmicks. Hope this is not a trend for the computer industry!!
 
we are actually forgetting of course, that apple added all these gimmicks to tiger to sell it. the real differences are underneath the hood, most of the gubbins underneath tiger are new, and very powerful. but that alone does not sell a product. Dashboard is a cool looking gimmick.

the biggest advance in OS's in the last 5 years has to be Exposé. it's just so innovative and completely useful.
 
To contribute ... and no, this screen shot isn't mine. Its pretty good that when browsing in Safari on a Mac, you can still get your registry scanned, eh?
 

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And this one, more in keeping with the theme, is pretty cool. Yes, it is genuine.
 

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Lt Major Burns said:
the real differences are underneath the hood, most of the gubbins underneath tiger are new, and very powerful. but that alone does not sell a product.

This is interesting. Why do you think this? Can you explain it further? The thought that came to my mind was actually that the Mac community pays more attention to beneath-hood changes than the "other" (eh) world.

Doesn't it sell? To whom does it not sell? To scrip kiddies emulating Tiger x86 in Vmware, or for servers running the server version of Tiger? There are differences there.
 
Looks like that user couldn't tell the difference between convolution and evolution. :p

"Macintosh because you're too creative for Windows."
 
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