Microsoft, Napster and Samsung prepare the strikeback:
http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage....hant_Id=1&Section_Id=1&Product_Code=SAM+YP910
http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage....hant_Id=1&Section_Id=1&Product_Code=SAM+YP910
Trip
Registered
That sucks. But the iPod still has quite a few things over that piece of crap. For example: two other models with larger (or smaller) HDs for more (or less) of a price.
I don't know though, it does look like strong competition, and it could end up spoiling Apples marketing scheme for the iTMS and iPod.
I don't know though, it does look like strong competition, and it could end up spoiling Apples marketing scheme for the iTMS and iPod.
Arden
Where mah "any" keys at?
Old Napster > New Napster
Geez, they tout support for the new Napster like it's some kind of cool feature. It's still a subscription! Calling it Napster does not make it better than any other subscription plan! That's why the iTMS is so successful!
It also supports Microsoft's Janus DRM technologies... so, in other words, you have to pay to pay to download crippled music. Hmm, I think I'll stick with the iPod + iTMS with its far-superior AAC files.
Another thing, when it says 20 GB of memory, is that like Flash ROM or something, or is that just the "technical" term for what most people call a hard drive?
That thing looks like the music player that you'd take in your Hummer with your khakhi vest on a safari expedition.
Geez, they tout support for the new Napster like it's some kind of cool feature. It's still a subscription! Calling it Napster does not make it better than any other subscription plan! That's why the iTMS is so successful!
It also supports Microsoft's Janus DRM technologies... so, in other words, you have to pay to pay to download crippled music. Hmm, I think I'll stick with the iPod + iTMS with its far-superior AAC files.
Another thing, when it says 20 GB of memory, is that like Flash ROM or something, or is that just the "technical" term for what most people call a hard drive?
That thing looks like the music player that you'd take in your Hummer with your khakhi vest on a safari expedition.
nb3004
Postmaster General
another thing, and this may be my opinion only but when they say "people want choices", that may be true but most or all people i know download mp3's no one i know downloads wma's off p2p networks, so why would they download wma's they pay for when they know and are familiar woth mp3's, again IMHO.
uhm yeah, i never quite understood what is so great about the wma format. i listened to a sample on the windows media site which was supposed to show you the by far superior quality of wma but it sounded the same... let's be realistic for a second: they use wma because it can have copy limitations which mp3 can't. and because telling ppl that doesn't sell so they say it has a far superior quality as well.
We could make 'Napster' stickers for our iPods and pretend that it works and still download music from iTMS or other sources. ;-)
Well, the 'war' is certainly on. Apple has created a light in the online music industry - and the others are now following.
Steve Jobs is _right_ to say they're the market leader in online music AND portable digital music players (whatever the details).
However: Apple locks its iTMS users into using iPods and iTunes right now, which could pose a problem. Other services lock you into using Windows, but with more than 90% of the world using Windows, that isn't really seen as a problem. Apple _must_ push AAC more. And also push their DRM format. People should be free to also listen to the files they've bought in other software than iTunes. And on other players than the iPod.
Still, Apple leads, the others are following. We can only hope that Apple is successful in leading a market. It's kind of a new situation for them. ;-) (Or an old one. But we all know where the Apple II has gone and that the IBM PC and its clones have taken over. Maybe Apple should start to license the iPod technology to Sony. Imagine three Apple iPod models and more to choose from by Sony, Sharp, Panasonic and others... Apple would get license fees and still handle the best online music store and jukebox software in the world...)
Well, the 'war' is certainly on. Apple has created a light in the online music industry - and the others are now following.
Steve Jobs is _right_ to say they're the market leader in online music AND portable digital music players (whatever the details).
However: Apple locks its iTMS users into using iPods and iTunes right now, which could pose a problem. Other services lock you into using Windows, but with more than 90% of the world using Windows, that isn't really seen as a problem. Apple _must_ push AAC more. And also push their DRM format. People should be free to also listen to the files they've bought in other software than iTunes. And on other players than the iPod.
Still, Apple leads, the others are following. We can only hope that Apple is successful in leading a market. It's kind of a new situation for them. ;-) (Or an old one. But we all know where the Apple II has gone and that the IBM PC and its clones have taken over. Maybe Apple should start to license the iPod technology to Sony. Imagine three Apple iPod models and more to choose from by Sony, Sharp, Panasonic and others... Apple would get license fees and still handle the best online music store and jukebox software in the world...)
drustar
Gold Member
Not I. I don't even have an iPod but I'm definitely thinking of getting one after I get my PowerBook for Christmas!
The iPod is so much sleeker and nicer. It's sad that they don't make the old ones anymore - I liked the dial and the buttons compared to the new ones.
I just want to mention that iTunes on Windows is probably the best thing that ever happened for Windows. That's on my PC laptop right now.
pds
Registered
Yes, Fryke, Apple has been the leader in the past and they blew it. It will be interesting to see if they learned their lesson.
This time it may be easier to take the risk of letting things out of their own hands through licensing, since they have a solid base of the computer business and can continue to develop hardware innovations.
They can continue to be anal on the one hand and let go of things on the other.
Then they may well engineer a replacement for an awful monopoly that acts in restraint of development and trade, the RAIA.
This time it may be easier to take the risk of letting things out of their own hands through licensing, since they have a solid base of the computer business and can continue to develop hardware innovations.
They can continue to be anal on the one hand and let go of things on the other.
Then they may well engineer a replacement for an awful monopoly that acts in restraint of development and trade, the RAIA.
I think Apple has already blown it, and if they aren't carefull they will have lost a very strategic position in the music industry.
1st - I can't believe it took them so long to port iTunes over to Windows. In the time they announced their future plans, I can count atleast five major attempts to rip off their music store concept.
They should have put way more resources into this.
2nd - they still don't have their Apple music store open to countires outside of the USA even if you do own a Mac.
I live in Canada, and there are a couple of copy cats who have launched recently.
So from my point of view, they had the ultimate chance to put a styranglehold on the online music industry but have blown it.
They are still ahead, but now they will be fighting it out with the others, and have lost a opportunity to make more switchers from the co-branding of iPod and iTunes.
I don't know what happened? Maybe they beta tested way too long trying to make things perfect..... but if I still can't buy from the Apple store from Canada using my Mac at this point in the game, I don't have much sympathy for them.
To the 30...... the 20...... the 10...... oh! fumble on the one yard line!
Poor Steve Jobs - usually sure handed, fumbled the ball on the one yard line, and now is in a mad scramble with Napster a a slew of other players fighting for the ball.
1st - I can't believe it took them so long to port iTunes over to Windows. In the time they announced their future plans, I can count atleast five major attempts to rip off their music store concept.
They should have put way more resources into this.
2nd - they still don't have their Apple music store open to countires outside of the USA even if you do own a Mac.
I live in Canada, and there are a couple of copy cats who have launched recently.
So from my point of view, they had the ultimate chance to put a styranglehold on the online music industry but have blown it.
They are still ahead, but now they will be fighting it out with the others, and have lost a opportunity to make more switchers from the co-branding of iPod and iTunes.
I don't know what happened? Maybe they beta tested way too long trying to make things perfect..... but if I still can't buy from the Apple store from Canada using my Mac at this point in the game, I don't have much sympathy for them.
To the 30...... the 20...... the 10...... oh! fumble on the one yard line!
Poor Steve Jobs - usually sure handed, fumbled the ball on the one yard line, and now is in a mad scramble with Napster a a slew of other players fighting for the ball.
Krevinek
Evil PPC Tweaker
Being a programmer, I am amazed how quickly they ported it over. They had to port code for CD burning, CD ripping, CD playing, another hunk of Mac UI, Networking and HTML Rendering. Now, they likely plugged into stuff available when possible... but that is a fair amount of work to devote resources to. They probably had the team working when they announced, but still... May -> October for a major development cycle is not to shabby.
gwynarion
I stole the Sun
Let's try to remember that the things you are complaining about were not Apple's fault. I'm sure that Apple would have released the iTunes Music Store for Windows much more quickly if the RIAA had allowed them to do so. I'm sure Apple would have made the Store available to Apple users all around the world immediately if the RIAA had allowed them to do so. It has been the RIAA and licensing issues at every step which have retarded the swift progress of iTMS for Windows and for the rest of the world. The RIAA wanted the Store rolled out for a small group of "test" users in a controlled market -- Apple users in the United States. Now they've allowed Apple to roll out the service to Windows users, but of course in the meantime they've begun allowing other services to go, services which are quite a bit worse than iTMS, but the RIAA doesn't care about that, they're just seeing dollar signs.