Mac to PC Networking in Tiger

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I have a question about networking in Tiger. I know that to view non-Home folders and volumes on Panther that you have to use SAMBA or DAVE. I was wondering if this will be any different in Tiger. Are you able to share any folder with a Windows computer, or still only the Home folder?

I've been looking into setting up SAMBA or DAVE so that our 2 PCs (1-Win XP, 1-Win2000) can see all the files on my external hard drive that's connected to my Mac (OS X 10.3.9). If Tiger still allows viewing the Home folder only...would it be ok to set one of these programs up now, or will upgrading to Tiger force me to have to set them up again, in which I should probably wait until after I upgrade?

Josh
 
I have tried SharePoints in Tiger and no, it does not work. In Panther, I had it set up so that network users could NOT browse my home directory, but could browse, read and write to the directories I had set up on my external Firewire drive. Now, in Tiger, I can only get it set up so that users can read and write to my home directory (I don't want this!) but cannot browse the directories on my external firewire drive. You see the directories on the firewire drive listed in Network Neighborhood in Windows, but when you try to access them, it says you don't have permission, NO MATTER WHAT. I've fiddled with every conceivable option in Sharepoints and I can't get it to work. I even tried editing the smb.conf file manually and it didn't help.

I do NOT want network users browsing/editing my Home directory, but if I go into System Preferences and turn off Windows sharing, then I can't even see the Mac from a Windows computer at all. If I turn on Windows sharing, everyone has read/write access to my home directory, and I can't prevent that! I went into Sharepoints to try to block that, but it does not work in Tiger. This is very frustrating.
 
Captain Code said:
Has anyone tried SharePoints in Tiger to see if it works?
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SharePoints is working well for me in Tiger--sharing an external connected to my iBook and my iBook home folder with our PCs. SharePoints did not work for me after updating to 10.3.9.
 
Then why doesn't mine work? It's frustrating, because it's the exact opposite of what I want. I don't want network users to be able to browse my home folder, and I do want them to be able to browse my firewire drive. Nothing I do can make this work in Tiger. It was effortless in Panther with SharePoints.

PS, don't you think it's kind of a stupid default on Apple's part that you have to share EVERY folder in your home directory? Where are you supposed to keep your porn if you have only the one internal drive and you have some folders with content that you want to share?
 
I'm at my wits end with this one. I've gone through the smb.conf file, even made the guest user map to my own user account on the Mac, made sure the shares are "browseable" etc., and no matter what, from a Windows PC, you can see the shares listed, but you can't access them. You get "\\Mac\MP3s is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions."

The problem seems to be that the "allow Windows guests" checkbox in Sharepoints does nothing. You can check it and click Update, but when you come back to it, that box will be unchecked again. If anybody could offer me any help I'd appreciate it.
 
Halifaxion said:
The problem seems to be that the "allow Windows guests" checkbox in Sharepoints does nothing. You can check it and click Update, but when you come back to it, that box will be unchecked again. If anybody could offer me any help I'd appreciate it.
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I did not use "allow Windows guests." Your probably know, but if you use that setting, then you have to change "Samba Security Method" to "share." Are your external's permissions set to "ignore ownership?" Is your Mac firewall off (don't know it this matters)? I did not do anything special in sharing my external. But, as indicated, I could not get it shared after I updated to 10.3.9.
 
I just upgraded OSX from Panther to Tiger.

Previously with Panther, I was able to turn on "windows file sharing" and on the pc i could map a network drive "z:\\192.168.1.3\drivename"

Using this feature, I was able to map several hard drives that are physically connected to my macintosh.


With OSX Tiger, I've enabled "windows file sharing" and unfortunately when I try to map a network drive, I am unable to. The only drive I can map is the default mac public drive "z:\\192.168.1.3\username"

to map drives on the pc, i right click on "my computer" and then select map a network drive.


With Panther this worked flawlessly and I was able to treat the drive connected to the Mac as a lettered drive on the PC.

Any ideas on what settings I need to change to regain this function?

previously on panther i did not need to use sharepoints - it just worked.
 
So I just downloaded sharepoints and was able to network a firewire connected drive on my mac running tiger.

i still don't know why panther was able to do this without needing any software.
 
I was never able to get Panther to share anything except the home folder without manually editing the smb.conf file or using SharePoints. There were no settings in Panther's windows sharing that allowed you to change the share points.
 
zyprexa said:
So I just downloaded sharepoints and was able to network a firewire connected drive on my mac running tiger.

i still don't know why panther was able to do this without needing any software.
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My sharing experiences with Panther were the same as Captain Code's--which is why I used SharePoints. I have run across only one other who sid he could do what you did. There must be others though.
 
Halifaxion said:
You get "\\Mac\MP3s is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions."
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You have been restarting the samba server after you make changes to the smb.conf right :)
 
I have been rebooting the machine after every change to smb.conf. I switched from "user" to "share" per your advice, same thing. Here is my smb.conf file, maybe someone can spot what I'm doing wrong? ("joeblow" is my normal user account on the Mac. I was trying to map Guest to that account but it still doesn't let me access the shares.)

[global]
guest account = joeblow
encrypt passwords = yes
auth methods = guest opendirectory
passdb backend = opendirectorysam guest
printer admin = @admin, @staff
server string = Mac Mini
unix charset = UTF-8-MAC
display charset = UTF-8-MAC
dos charset = CP0
use spnego = yes
client ntlmv2 auth = no
os level = 8
defer sharing violations = no
vfs objects = darwin_acls
brlm = yes
workgroup = BRAKGROUP
netbios name = Mac
map to guest = bad user
security = share
local master = no
hide dot files = yes
max connections = 10


[Videos]
path = /250GB/Videos/
read only = No
browseable = yes
writeable = yes
inherit permissions = Yes
guest ok = Yes
;Created by SharePoints


[Ware]
path = /250GB/Ware/
read only = No
inherit permissions = No
guest ok = Yes
;Created by SharePoints


[Legal]
path = /250GB/Legal
read only = No
inherit permissions = No
guest ok = No
;Created by SharePoints


[MP3s]
path = /250GB/MP3s
read only = No
inherit permissions = No
guest ok = Yes
;Created by SharePoints
 
The Ghost said:
Are your external's permissions set to "ignore ownership?" Is your Mac firewall off (don't know it this matters)?
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Firewall is off. How do I set the external's permissions to "ignore ownership"? It's a FAT32 formatted Iomega hard drive. Very strange how it worked perfectly in Panther 10.3.9 but not Tiger.

It's weird reading the posts here about this topic and how random filesharing is on a Mac. You would think it would be far more consistent instead of varying from machine to machine for no apparent reason.
 
ctrl-click on the external's icon > chose "Get info," look toward the bottom of the window that appears.
 
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