Microsoft admits Windows is flawed

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hahahahahahahaha

How in the fridge is information sharing with its competitor going to be a set back on the war on terrorism ???

what a bunch of dopes :p
 
...using the "war on terrorism" as something to hide behind, when this "war" doesn't even exist except in the minds of our questionable leaders...
 
when this "war" doesn't even exist except in the minds of our questionable leaders...
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I think there are about 2826 families of the primary casualties of this war who would strongly disagree with that statement. But this is a Mac OS X board so I'll refrain from jumping on that comment any more.

Re: Microsoft...

It is quite ridiculous that MS would try to use the current climate to wiggle out of any serious punishment by the DOJ. But the whole DOJ prosecution has very little to do with MS' monopolistic predatory policies. If it did, MS would be forced to unbundle all the extra apps from Windows, and Microsoft wouldn't get away with forcing PC vendors to sell a copy of Windows with every PC, regardless of whether the end user wants to use Linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, or any other OS other than MS's on that computer. Heck, MS has even gotten away with forcing companies using Macs to buy a Windows license for these machines. I kid you not. Read the article on the Register.

The whole persecution of MS is for one reason and one reason only. MS didn't contribute enough money to the political party in power at the time that the case was brought up (in this case, Bill Clinton and the Democrats running the DOJ back in 96).

As for MS being broken up, I hope it isn't. Breaking up MS would not make the situation any better. MOF, you would now have two companies with a stranglehold on the software industry, and I'm sure both would still see Apple as a threat. And with the Office team spun off, the bottom line would become more important, and without the threat of a breakup looming, Mac Office would be deader than the floppy disk.
 
Not to defend Microsoft but I do see their point. I work for the government, networking/Helpdesk. We Use windows 2000, for almost everything. You would be amazed at some of the stuff that is run on windows and what it does. Most computers hold at a minumum need to know basis Information and a select few are labeled Top Secret. I do happen to work for a unit that is directly and activly supporting the effort, I would hate to see what could happen if that info got into the wrong hands. You would also be amazed at the break in atemnts we get each month! We are on a constant basis running MS patches for security holes, I mean almost weekly there is a new patch that needs to be run. On top of that we have a group of people that go from base to base and hack into the gov computers then report back the holes they found and what we need to do to fix them (how would you like that job) Kinda makes you wonder why the gov didnt opt for macs.
 
that while Microsoft may be unwilling to give it's competitors access to it's source code, they shouldn't be punished for it.

Look at Apple - they're an underdog player and the number one complaint from developers is that Apple is still very secretive about letting developers know too much about the inner workings of the OS.

Again, I don't support their claim that the war on terrorism is the reason they shouldn't have to show developers/gov't their code. It's their intellectual property and they shouldn't have to share it with anybody they don't want to. Apple has the same right as well, and both, it seems exercise it to the fullest extent they can.
 
For the most part... Microsoft ought to get shafted in some way.

I see the best thing to do is just turn Windows over to a standards body...

Let them sort things out.
 
... reminded us all that MS is a "convicted criminal" and this trial is about "how to punish them". Kind of puts things in a slightly different light. They will be shafted. They're just trying to figure out to what extent - and MS is still be so arogant as to try and wriggle out of their punishment! Made me chuckle when I read it, anyway :)

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Lets not make this into a terrorism-flame-debate thread!!! We had enough of them already.;)
 
I can see a merit for this argument.

Windoze is used so much and is so crappy that if it got in the wrong hands it could be hacked very easily.

As long as the code is released to the government and only to people that need to see it, then it's not a big deal.
 
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