Mozilla Questions

[themacko]

For the first time in a while, I've been having problems with Internet Explorer not rendering pages correctly. Don't ask me why, but it's screweing up some tables on sites that I visit fairly regularly, same with OmniWeb. To my suprise Mozilla has done the job quite well. But I've got some pesky questions about the whole Mozilla project that I can't figure out.

First off, what is the Mach-O build and could someone post an actual link to it? I've never been able to download this, which is supposedly faster than the regular CFM (is that what it's called?).

Secondly, what the heck is Fizzilla, CocoaZilla and ChimChim (which is diff. from Chimera?) and how are they different from the regular Mozilla that I'm using in OS X?

As for plug-ins, I've noticed that Mozilla doesn't like Windows Media Player at all. I don't know about anything else in particular, but is there something I need to configure to get WMP stuff to work?

Lastly, I'd like Ed to post that link one more time to the reasons why I shouldn't be using this thing.

Thanks for your patience guys, I'm a Moz-newb. (that was lame)

 

[dlookus]

I don't know much about Mozilla, but I can tell you that some of those are much to early in development to use reliably.

I think the vanilla Mozilla is the most developed of those browsers. One thing I can say for Mozilla was I got cyrillic fonts working in about 5 seconds, and I have yet to get IE to work. Damn IE!

One thought on pages breaking in IE. For some stupid reason IE lets you resize fonts even if a site is using fixed size fonts on their page (using style sheets.) Is it possible you've nudged up the size of the font accidentally. Command +,- will change the font size. I've noticed that many pages will break just by changing the size a tiny bit. Just a thought.

 

[edX]

making a special 'by invitation' appearance -

the fastest browser thread

the ultimate reference for the pros and cons of using mozilla as well as fun filled facts about all the major browsers

keep in mind that all of them have been updated and improved since this thread was originally posted but the relative speeds remain pretty close.

 

[Red Phoenix]

You know, Ed, I'm beginning to wonder how many of those 2176 posts you've made have been links to that one post. It saves everyone time, but it might just be easier to put that in your signature.

 

[dixonbm]

Mozilla is slowwww. The only thing I use it for is to display Thai websites (for my wife), it being the only one that does it reliably. Even Omni web sucks at Thai fonts.

-Dixon

 

[phatsharpie]

Other than startup, I found Mozilla for OS X (even the Carbon version) quite fast and usable. I don't find IE to be much faster, other than starting the program.

The variants of Mozilla for Mac OS X, such as Mach-O, Fizzilla, Cocozilla, and ChimChim (which is the same as Chimera) are just variations of using a Unix native Gecko rendering engine attached to a Cocoa interface. The most developed and usable Mozilla is the standard (Carbon) distribution, but the other variants are significantly faster. To download the Mach-O release, just visit the "Nightly Build" link on the Mozilla homepage...

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-macho-macosx-trunk.dmg.gz

The annoying thing, however, is the Mach-O build is often incorrectly uploaded, resulting in a 1.1MB file that is unusable.

My favorite Mozilla variant is Chimera (http://chimera.mozdev.org), Unix Gecko engine which will be tweaked to render natively in Quartz (probably rivalling OmniWeb in terms of beautifully rendered pages) and excellent Aqua (Cocoa) UI.

Oh, I could only get MWP to work with IE, go figure.

-B