OS X Component Installation

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chenly

Moof!
I know this was covered in an earlier thread, but the search engine on this site won't accept "OS X Component Installation Disk," which is obviously over the three-word minimum, so here goes: how can I install only parts of OS X? Specifically, I downloaded IE 5.1.4 from download.com, then stupidly delted 5.1.3 before I made sure that 5.1.4 worked--BAD decision! The download is a Classic application ONLY, and Redmond doesn't offer the Carbonized version at all outside of the Mac OS X installation disk, so...
 
you can t. it was one of the real nice things about OS 9. completely customizable OS installation, or software installation. the other nice thing about it is finder running on the installer disk.


my advice: try this in terminal:
Code: 
% curl [url]http://www.omnigroup.com/ftp/pub/software/MacOSX/10.1/OmniWeb-4.1-beta-4-English.dmg[/url] -o ~/Desktop/OmniWeb-4.1-beta-4-English.dmg

you ll never miss your redmond browser
 
lethe: no offense, but you're wrong. I KNOW that you can perform partial intalls.

slur: Thanks! This isn't what I remembered from the other post, but it's a start.
 
really? i d love to hear how. third party software notwithstanding, i was fairly sure that the only recourse is to reinstall the system.
 
Using Apple's provided installer you're limited to the install options provided in each PKG. This is where the freeware Pacifist comes in. It's a lot like the old TomeViewer that allows you to extract any items from a classic MacOS installer tome.

The limitations here should be obvious. If you use Pacifist to reinstall the 10.1.3 Update PKG over an existing 10.1.4 system (for example) it's not a clean downgrade. You'll only downgrade the files that changed from 10.1.2 to 10.1.3 and not necessarily those that changed from 10.1.3 to 10.1.4. So you'd need to start with the full 10.1.0 install and then do each upgrade in turn to get a clean 10.1.4. However, if you use Pacifist to do this you can skip the restarts in between.
 
I only want IE 5.1.3 back; I need it for web testing. I think I'm going to just FTP it from my XGF's iMac. Pacifist stays on my system, tho'.
 
OK, so you can't FTP the .app files (they don't register as apps but as folders). Since you can't copy OmniWeb.app, I'm going to assume that you can't copy Internet Explorer.app, either. What if I install OS X on my spare parition, take IE off that install, and dump the rest? And why doesn't Software Update successfully download updates anymore, which is the problem which started this whole mess? ~!@#$%^ Microsoft!
 
1. Internet Explorer has to be in the Applications folder in order for Software Update to find it and present the 5.1.4 update.

2. Pacifist will allow you to install even a single file from a PKG installer, so if you have the 10.1 installer you can extract Internet Explorer from it by itself.

3. Correct, you can't FTP .app's in the raw form. Stuff them with DropStuff first and then FTP the .sit file, then extract it on the destination.
 
Originally posted by slur
3. Correct, you can't FTP .app's in the raw form. Stuff them with DropStuff first and then FTP the .sit file, then extract it on the destination.
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That was my next move, but I haven't been over to her place lately. Microsoft is REALLY pissing me off with this one. Why the ~!@# wouldn't you make the installer available SOMEwhere? Why put only the Classic 5.1.4 on download.com? Why? WHY?
 
Same issue with QuickTime for OS X, Apple doesn't let you download that. The reasoning they're doing this is beyond me, it must be the in thing :rolleyes:
 
chenly, i d still like to hear in what way i was wrong. when you tell someone that what they say is not true, a counterexample or at least an explanation is in order.

i take a lot of pride in my knowledge of macs, and my job relies on it. so come out with it!

well.....?

PS pacifist is a good program. if only apples own software had that capability built in
 
lethe: I KNOW you can perform partial installs on OS X; I watched a UNIX buddy of mine do it with the Public Beta, but she's...well, a goddess of hacking. Don't ask how she did it!

Pacifist lets you rove around in .pkg files and pick and choose what you want. I have to use it, now, to get IE back--the .zip and tarball files I created at my XGF's place decompress as folders as well. I'll let you all know how I make out with Pacifist.
 
Should have used a .sit file. I believe they're more Mac friendly, a lot of .apps are distributed that way.
 
i owe you an apology chenly. i was wrong. after your last post, i went hunting for a way to install individual packages from the installer. and i found it! without any third party software, here it is:

Code: 
# cp /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ CD/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg/Contents/Resources/Essentials.pax.gz /Applications
# gunzip /Applications/Essentials.pax.gz
# pax -r -f /Applications/Essentials.pax './Applications/Internet Explorer.app'
# rm /Applications/Essentials.pax.gz

i think this is a really neat trick. thanks for pointing me in the right direction chenly. read man pax for more information.

i am supposing that the pax command is where pacifist took its name from? what do you think?
 
...but no banana. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems inconceivable (InconCEIVable!) that UNIX applications cannot be transferred from one disk to another. Next step: Iomega. Stay tuned.
 
i don t understand what you want to do that my command didn t do for you. it worked just fine for me. i installed internet explorer from the CD. that s what you wanted, right?
 
Yes, it was. It didn't work, but I was a little rushed this morning. I'll try it again tonight. lethe, thank you very much for the code--I'm sure I'll get the prog back!
 
here is the command a little more concisely:
Code: 
zcat /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ CD/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg/Contents/Resources/Essentials.pax.gz | pax -r './Applications/Internet Explorer.app'

you can do this, for example, in your home directory, and it will create a directory ./Applications, with IE in it. i haven t figured out how to specify where the output should go, but after you create it, you can just put it into you /Applications folder yourself.
 
Somewhat off topic, but there is no 'three word minimum' on the search engine. I know, it says there is. But try searching for a single word (like moose) and you get results. I think it may be a three word maximum.

By the way, I tried "Component Installation Disk" and it came up with one result, this thread.
 
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