Please Help me!! tried everything

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caseyaberhart

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hello all, i am a new member, i am hoping to share some of my expertise and advice with you all in the near future.

I have a big problem. i have a 333MHz G3 iMac with OS 8.6 installed,
I am trying to upgrade to OS X 10.2 'Panther' (correct me if i'm wrong)
everytime i boot from cd, it shows me a grey apple logo in the center of the screen, then a animated logo appears underneath constantly swirling and no activity that i can hear, there also appears to be a large band and a smaller band underneath these appear to be 'fuzzy' or a display corruption of some description. now, somebody told me to hold down apple + s while it boots, giving me a console of some sort. is appears to boot then in this console mode those bands previously described appear. after waiting a few minutes the pc spits out some more text and ends in "Panic: We are hanging here..." (very funny i thought) the text before it pauses is obscured by the bands, but it appears to be the same as when it continues, at the sake of boring everyone to death i will describe the text which is repeated twice. i have tried everything, multiple reboots, resetting NVRAM and PRAM, open firmware commands, reading everything i could google, and to no avail. Please!!! Somebody help me!

IT SAYS:

ApplePlatformExpert::getGMTTimeOfDay can not provide time of day RTC did not show up
panic(cpu0): zalloc: zone "kernel map entries" empty
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
0x00008593C 0x00005D6C 0x00028B8C 0x00042950 0x00062D20 0x00062FB4 0x00061BFC 0x000429B4
0x0002D96C 0x001D46D4 0x001DB7C0 0x000AABD8 0x000AF2F8 0x001C9344 0x00036118 0x00036028
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0X01097000)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSIR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

Kernel Version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.0:
Sat Jul 27 13:18:52 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC


No debugger configured - dumping debug information
MSR=0x00001030
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
0x00008593C 0x00005D6C 0x00028B8C 0x00042950 0x00062D20 0x00062FB4 0x00061BFC 0x000429B4
0x0002D96C 0x001D46D4 0x001DB7C0 0x000AABD8 0x000AF2F8 0x001C9344 0x00036118 0x00036028
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0X01097000)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSIR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

Kernel Version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.0:
Sat Jul 13:18:52 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC


panic: We are hanging here...


Should i take a hammer to it???
 
Also remember that you'l need to perform the update in Mac OS version 9 or below. The firmware update won't work in OS X or in Classic from within OS X. You need to be booted natively into the Mac OS Classic environment.
 
Fortunately, the firmware update for your machine can run in OS 8, so you won't need to upgrade to OS 9 first to install it. However, keep in mind that if you want to use Classic (i.e., if you want to run OS 8/9 programs in OS X), you'll need Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2.

You didn't mention how much RAM you have installed. 10.2 probably won't even boot with less than 128MB; 256MB or more is highly recommended.

You'll also probably need a bigger disk than what came with your iMac if you want to run OS X, although that can't be the source of this particular problem.
 
i have the latest updates installed including: modem update, firmware update, and cd-rom update, 128 mb of ram and no clue on how to get this thing running, i've been trying for 4 hours now with hundreds of crashes and reboots, i feel like i've been banging my head against a wall. i've even tried playing in the open firmware with no luck (falling short of learning forth! (boring)) the machine is really no good to me without os x on it as i need it to connect to my winblows network, a bit off topic here but has anyone heard any praise about yellow dog linux or ubuntu linux for PPC machines? do these have any advantages over os x?
 
I have run yellow dog with pretty good success. Remember though, it is a LINUX variant. Your Mac OSX software will not run on it. Well, not without a bit of tinkering. And most of it won't run at all.

However, it is pretty sweet and pretty fast on older hardware - which is what is it ment for, IMHO.

The S. Bullock movie "The Net" was full of macs.. running yellow dog.
 
UpQuark77 said:
I have run yellow dog with pretty good success. Remember though, it is a LINUX variant. Your Mac OSX software will not run on it. Well, not without a bit of tinkering. And most of it won't run at all.

However, it is pretty sweet and pretty fast on older hardware - which is what is it ment for, IMHO.

The S. Bullock movie "The Net" was full of macs.. running yellow dog.
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To be more specific, Yellow Dog Linux is one of many Linux distributions out there. Despite the many distributions, they are still the same Linux kernel in its basic nature. As for running Mac OS apps on Linux, you can't natively run them. You would have to run the Mac applications in an emulated environment such as Mac-on-Linux. From there, you would run Mac OS 9 or Mac OS X and run the applications that way. Think of it as a VirtualPC only it's actually a "VirtualMacintosh". :p

Aside from the above, if I were you I would still check this site, download the appropriate firmware, and attempt the firmware update if you haven't done so already.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117

Good luck. :)
 
caseyaberhart said:
I am trying to upgrade to OS X 10.2 'Panther' (correct me if i'm wrong)
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You are wrong. Panther is OS 10.3.
I don't know if that's relevant to your problem but you did ask! :)
 
Hi;Which OSX install Disk are you using? I used A full retail install disk on my 350 slot load Imac for 10.2.8 and then a emac 10.3 update disk.Had no problems at all.128mb. of ram is way to low for OSX .Also X is very picky about which type of ram is installed.Check apple's site for info on this. Unbutu linux will work on a Imac but the version I tried did not have support for screen controls,so the vidieo was a bit wierd.
good luck!
 
i will be on the lookout for a copy of PPC compatible linux, ubuntu is shipping some free cd's soon, i;ve put my order in. 10.2 is jaguar not panther i know that now. i'll chuck my 10.2 disc set on e-bay when i get something to run on my iMac. does anyone have any idea on how to fix my problem? or any other forums i can post to?
 
arrowone said:
Hi;Which OSX install Disk are you using? I used A full retail install disk on my 350 slot load Imac for 10.2.8 and then a emac 10.3 update disk.Had no problems at all.128mb. of ram is way to low for OSX .Also X is very picky about which type of ram is installed.Check apple's site for info on this. Unbutu linux will work on a Imac but the version I tried did not have support for screen controls,so the vidieo was a bit wierd.
good luck!
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can you post this link to apples site regarding types of ram? it may help me in my journey to OS X supremacy. thanks
 
caseyaberhart said:
i will be on the lookout for a copy of PPC compatible linux, ubuntu is shipping some free cd's soon, i;ve put my order in. 10.2 is jaguar not panther i know that now. i'll chuck my 10.2 disc set on e-bay when i get something to run on my iMac. does anyone have any idea on how to fix my problem? or any other forums i can post to?
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If you do go the Linux/ppc route, I recommend Ubuntu Linux which uses Gnome or the Xubuntu version which uses XFCE as the desktop environment. There's also Kubuntu if you like KDE. All three of these are basically the same distribution but they're named in their own way because they use different desktop environments. The latest version (6.06 "Dapper Drake") works fine on PPC Macs, especially on the G5 Macs with a 64-bit kernel. I'm thinking of backing up everything and repartitioning my drive in order to dual boot with Tiger and Ubuntu Dapper.
 
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