a shot sidenote to those of you with portables talking how the battery is very quickly run down in sleep: those who think that the machine isn't fully off are right and wrong. The machine itself and its components seem to be off on the portables i've seen, but any powerbook with a fan, i.e. the wallstreet g3s, the fan is in fact on, thus eating up a lot of juice. it's a 5 volt fan. not even the size of a quarter. also, i've noticed that the screen goes screwy also, so it's not all the way off, right? and i've noticed that the speakers are periodically on. either way, i wish i could use sleep on my g4 anyways. i could start up a server business cause i leave it on all the time now.