Power Macintosh 8100/80

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tcprinting

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Got one in the back room?
I have been running (unsuccessfully) a Power Mac 8100/80.
I need to get the drivers for: a Sonnet Cressendo processor upgrade,
a NEC CD-ROM:466 external drive.

OR, . . .

Do YOU have a COMPLETE, RUNNING system sitting in the back room, collecting dust, taking up room?

Teen Challenge Training Center could use it to power our AGFA Accuset 800 image setter.


Bless ya'
 
All right Mac Gurus, a novice needs your help. I'm attempting to restore my Power Mac 8100/80 to life. Why? It's the front end of an AGFA Accuset 800 Image Setting system. Unless you know a better alternative. The CD-ROM recognizes on the SCSI 1 bus, but a disk placed in it will not read. Although I can boot from my System 7.6.1 disk in it. The floppy works but without file extensions (drivers) won't read becxause MacLink Plus classifies them as PC files.

HELP!!!!
 
http://www.sonnettech.com/downloads/proc_upgrds_sw.html
(That's for the CPU upgrade....you'll see the one for your machine on that page)

As for the CD-ROm, I believe it will work right off the bat, or you might have to use something like FWB's CD-ROM toolkit. I'm sure others could provide better solutions for the CD-ROM if they exist, but this is the only one I know for Classic Mac OS.
 
Thanks,
What's a FWB . . . Do they have a website also?
The other problem I've run into is if I try to load from a floppy, I get a message that it's a PC file (because no file extension?).
Any suggestions?

nixgeek said:
http://www.sonnettech.com/downloads/proc_upgrds_sw.html
(That's for the CPU upgrade....you'll see the one for your machine on that page)

As for the CD-ROm, I believe it will work right off the bat, or you might have to use something like FWB's CD-ROM toolkit. I'm sure others could provide better solutions for the CD-ROM if they exist, but this is the only one I know for Classic Mac OS.
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tcprinting said:
Thanks,
What's a FWB . . . Do they have a website also?
The other problem I've run into is if I try to load from a floppy, I get a message that it's a PC file (because no file extension?).
Any suggestions?
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http://www.fwb.com/html/cd-rom_toolkit.html (CD-ROM Toolkit from FWB Software)

Are you somewhat new to the Classic Mac OS? I get that impression from your responses.

Most Macs with Mac OS Classic or Mac OS X will be able to read PC-formatted diskettes, but if the file doesn't have a program associated with it, it won't run. Same issue on Windows. This can easily be fixed by associating the file with a program that will read it properly. What type of file are you trying to open?

If the Mac is telling you that it doesn't recognize the diskette, it could be two things:
1.) The diskette isn't formatted or is corrupted.
2.) It's a PC-formatted disk, but the Macintosh is missing the Control Panel or Extension that allows it to translate PC-formatted diskettes for Mac use. In the olden days, it used to be a Control Panel called PC Exchange. As of Mac OS 9, I believe, they have changed it to Apple File Exchange. (It's been a while since I've played with Mac OS 9.)

If the latter is the issue, all you need to do is take the Mac OS Install CD that came with that machine and install only that component.

Of course, you might want to check in Control Panels --> Extensions Manager and see if it's disabled.

Now that I think of it, why don't you go in the Extensions Manager and enable everything just for kicks. It might be that you have everything there but it's been disabled for whatever reason.

Do that and let us know here.
 
so, let me try to re-explain your problem ( i don't want to miss understand you). you have a ppc8100, with cd drive. you can boot from a system 7.6.1 cd, but the mac will not read any other cds? also, your floppy drive works, but all diskettes put in it come up as pc diskettes?
give some other info to help us please.
amount of ram
hd size
what cds and diskettes you are trying to use
also look to see if your cd drive is apple branded, and to check to see if all your scsi devices have different scsi ids.
 
please contiune this in the classic forum with tcprinting's post for help; so that i don't have to keep track of two threads to help him with his ppc8100
btw, not to boost, but i havn't run into a problem that i couldn't fix in the classic systems (6.0.3-7.6.1) and os's(8-9.2.2) for the mac. but that could be because i havn't run into very many.
 
To begin . . . yes, I am quite the novice.
My original issue is that I get a chime, happy Mac, and then what appears to be an error message box, but with no message - then my System 7.6.1 freezes.

I've tried a myriad of keystroke options to restart but still get the dialog box.
I can force a CD boot from the 7.6.1 system disk.
I have wiped the HD to clean install, zapped the PRAM. E-I-E-I-O.

What's next?
 
Well,
1. Ram = 114,688K this is 114MB? (They could make that simpler!)
2. HD = IBM 9GB (Unfortunately, previkous user patritioned it into 3 drives 2.9, 2.9, 2.9)
3. I did not install MacLink and the floppy re-initialized a disk - so I got the Sonnet/Cresendo driver installed.
4. FWB didn't seem to have a tool for System 7.6.1 for CD-ROMs.
5. The CD-ROM reads to be an NEC EC13153 (?) I couldn't find a tool for that.

What's next?

BTW thank you for your time AND patience
 
well as far as an older cd tool kit from fwb, you'll spend $170 for their complete swoftware package, or try this (ebay sale of older tool kit). i had an older version of the tool kit, but it didn't help me any. the drive i tryed was too new for the tool kit, and you may run into that problem.
aw, does the 8100 have an internal cd drive? and does it have the apple logo on the top? if there is no logo, or it doesn't sa apple computer on it, i have found that most of the time, it will not work on the older os's. them old macs are very picky about non apple drives. i found it to be a pain.
btw, riddle me this, how can the mac boot from a cd with no drivers and use the drive just fine, but after you have installed the os and reboot, the drive can not be used?
have you install the os on to the drive after wiping it out, while booting from the cd?
 
Try holding down Shift to disable Extensions right after you hear the chime. You should see the Welcome to Mac OS and Extensions Disabled at the bottom of that. If it boots OK, then it's possible that some extension or control panel is causing the crash.

You are going to have to test each 3rd party extension and control panel (meaning, one that didn't come with the operating system by default) one by one. You can start by going into Extensions Manager once you're at the desktop and selecting "Mac OS 7.6.1 base" to select the stock extensions and control panels that the operating system is going to need. Then reboot and if it boots OK after that, start enabling extensions and control panels one by one and reboot each time. If during this process you reboot and it crashes again, then you know which is the offending extension and/or control panel.

Good luck.
 
I had posted this in the other thread about the same thing, so here it is. This is regarding the System crash on boot.

Try holding down Shift to disable Extensions right after you hear the chime. You should see the Welcome to Mac OS and Extensions Disabled at the bottom of that. If it boots OK, then it's possible that some extension or control panel is causing the crash.

You are going to have to test each 3rd party extension and control panel (meaning, one that didn't come with the operating system by default) one by one. You can start by going into Extensions Manager once you're at the desktop and selecting "Mac OS 7.6.1 base" to select the stock extensions and control panels that the operating system is going to need. Then reboot and if it boots OK after that, start enabling extensions and control panels one by one and reboot each time. If during this process you reboot and it crashes again, then you know which is the offending extension and/or control panel.

Good luck.
 
how about we move this thread to the tech support and out of the classified. i've been watching there, and it turns out all my posts have been added here instead. what is going on? argh, please pick a place and keep all posting there, i hate tracking two threads for one problem. :mad:
 
sinclair_tm said:
how about we move this thread to the tech support and out of the classified. i've been watching there, and it turns out all my posts have been added here instead. what is going on? argh, please pick a place and keep all posting there, i hate tracking two threads for one problem. :mad:
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I moved my replies to here since you had requested to have them all here from that other thread, hence my mention in italics on the post above. I thought the other thread would have been a better place to continue the assistance, but that's my opinion. :confused:

I guess this was posted here because the original poster was asking if anyone had any hardware for that Mac, or a complete Mac system.


EDIT:
Nevermind....I'm just as confused ae you are now after looking at the previous posts. :confused:
 
it looks like someone else moved our postes from the help section to this for some reason and got us all mixed up!
 
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