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You laugh now. I unfortunately had the bad luck of OSX deleting ~5 gigs of data off my Firewire hard drive. Some were backed up some were not.

Apparently when you "Move" files from one volume to another, OSX will delete the files off the source volume irregardless whether or not they made it safely to the destination. In Windows, it has always made a copy first, then delete the source file and THAT is how an OS should move files.
 
Yeah and now were supposed to actually pay more money for a slower finder in Panther and all the functions that were already in OS9, and then purposely taken out of OSX, like labels. It's all part of the Apple Industrial Corporate Cash Complex. And all the wilingly blind Apple fanatics are out there suckin it all up, adding to the backward hype.

C'mon people we have a pathetic choice of 2 OS's out there. In other words, no choice and no competition, and what happens when you have no choice and no competition? You have a monopoly, which also means you have a corporate dictatorship which means you have No Real Progress and corporate price-fixing. Sorry, but you have NO CHOICE but to pay whatever Apple deems necessary to drive its profit margin so the execs can have a third beach house.

Imagine a world were there's 25 or 30 OS's out there, all cross-compatible. The competition would be so fierce that REAL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES would have to be made to keep the consumers attention. Prices would end up incredibly low, you would be paying about half of what you pay now.

Instead we're all paying for scaling windows and slow finders - and that's not by mistake; The reason Apple makes their software too CPU-heavy for even the latest machines is to force the little guy (thats you) to put a faster machine on Apple credit becasue that's the only thing that OSX can run on decently.

Apple is just as much a corporate killing machine as microsoft.
 
habilis you sound just like me on some days, the "I hate them all they all suck" attitude :)

Install Linux man, let your troubles be gone.
 
Originally posted by habilis
Yeah and now were supposed to actually pay more money for a slower finder in Panther and all the functions that were already in OS9, and then purposely taken out of OSX, like labels. It's all part of the Apple Industrial Corporate Cash Complex. And all the wilingly blind Apple fanatics are out there suckin it all up, adding to the backward hype.

C'mon people we have a pathetic choice of 2 OS's out there. In other words, no choice and no competition, and what happens when you have no choice and no competition? You have a monopoly, which also means you have a corporate dictatorship which means you have No Real Progress and corporate price-fixing. Sorry, but you have NO CHOICE but to pay whatever Apple deems necessary to drive its profit margin so the execs can have a third beach house.

Imagine a world were there's 25 or 30 OS's out there, all cross-compatible. The competition would be so fierce that REAL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES would have to be made to keep the consumers attention. Prices would end up incredibly low, you would be paying about half of what you pay now.

Instead we're all paying for scaling windows and slow finders - and that's not by mistake; The reason Apple makes their software too CPU-heavy for even the latest machines is to force the little guy (thats you) to put a faster machine on Apple credit becasue that's the only thing that OSX can run on decently.

Apple is just as much a corporate killing machine as microsoft.

...we are in this situation where instead of having to chose between:
-Good and Better!
we chose:
-Less Bad than Bad!

As for Apple being the same with M$ I beg to differ! I'm tired to listen to this so called "argument"! Apple is a 5-6 billion dollars company and M$ is what? A 50-60 billion dollars company? NO freaking way they are the same :mad: M$ could be (with this kind of money) at least 10 years ahead of Apple's game and methinks that they are just playing cat and mouse with Apple instead...

Not to mention which company has the REAL monopoly and not the fictional one! :rolleyes:

And yes, between all other choices I easily select Apple, Linux, et al not only because they are better overall than Wintel offerings but simply because they are the ones that actually create and keep up the competition! ::ha::

Last, if you feel that Apple is even remotely close to M$ why don't you switch to another platform, say Wintel? :rolleyes: Also, I don't think that I or other here are suckers but instead we are consciously chose to stick with Apple! And yes, personally I'm going to buy that sweet G5 and Panther no questions asked but with loads of feedback :p :D

;)
 
Ok so Apple is a 5 Billion dollar complex and Microsoft is a 50 billion dollar complex. The only difference is the Apple execs have 2 beach houses and the Microsoft execs have 3 and a company Mercedes. This is a capitalistic society, driven purely by cash and capital, not fairness, not need, not emotion, not honor. The more capital you posess, the more "Fair" life will be for you and it's inverse. Apple is one of the biggest and worst offenders when it comes to monopolizing a market; Apple after all is Firstly a hardware company (hardware comprises over 88% of all Apple revenue) well guess what, want an Apple computer? Gotta have Apple software or it won't work. Guess what else - want Apple software? Gotta have an overpriced new Mac or it aint gonna work. We're all getting screwed when it comes to Operating Systems in this current climate of corruption.

But don't get me wrong, I want that G5 too, I would love to have one, mainly because it's the only thing that's going to run Panther the way it was meant to be run. For a plethora of reasons, I'll take Apple over Microsoft in the end(literally and figuratively).
 
Originally posted by habilis
Ok so Apple is a 5 Billion dollar complex and Microsoft is a 50 billion dollar complex. The only difference is the Apple execs have 2 beach houses and the Microsoft execs have 3 and a company Mercedes. This is a capitalistic society, driven purely by cash and capital, not fairness, not need, not emotion, not honor. The more capital you posess, the more "Fair" life will be for you and it's inverse. Apple is one of the biggest and worst offenders when it comes to monopolizing a market; Apple after all is Firstly a hardware company (hardware comprises over 88% of all Apple revenue) well guess what, want an Apple computer? Gotta have Apple software or it won't work. Guess what else - want Apple software? Gotta have an overpriced new Mac or it aint gonna work. We're all getting screwed when it comes to Operating Systems in this current climate of corruption.

But don't get me wrong, I want that G5 too, I would love to have one, mainly because it's the only thing that's going to run Panther the way it was meant to be run. For a plethora of reasons, I'll take Apple over Microsoft in the end(literally and figuratively).

...this is something beyond this thread and all I can say for now is that I hope you will get that G5 ASAP! :D ;)
 
C'mon people we have a pathetic choice of 2 OS's out there. In other words, no choice and no competition, and what happens when you have no choice and no competition? You have a monopoly, which also means you have a corporate dictatorship which means you have No Real Progress and corporate price-fixing. Sorry, but you have NO CHOICE but to pay whatever Apple deems necessary to drive its profit margin so the execs can have a third beach house.

Imagine a world were there's 25 or 30 OS's out there, all cross-compatible. The competition would be so fierce that REAL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES would have to be made to keep the consumers attention. Prices would end up incredibly low, you would be paying about half of what you pay now. [/B]

cool down habilis and install linux. you have plenty of choises. mandrake that feels and looks like xp, and redhat that is alwsays more and more commercial ... and a lot of other tastes. yellowdog, debian, freeebsd, openbsd, bluecat, rhino ... many of them are free.
 
Do they make a redhat version of Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, Quark 5, Dreamweaver MX, Freehand MX, Flash MX, Microsoft Office X, Word, and Entourage? I use these programs heavily, on a daily basis, not to mention many others that get sparratic use like 3dsmax and After Effects. Or what about my favorite games like MoH:AA, Quake, or Neverwinter Nights? If so, then I sure didn't know about it, and if not then redhat is about as technically useful to me as an actual red hat. Besides all that, I'm in the design field and people send me Mac files all the time, the outputters also ask for mac files only, so there's hardly a way around any of this.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I rained on your parade. That spoof was of course freekin hilarious Giaguara. Looks like Windows 98, acts like Windows 98.

I'm just a good 'ol boy, who grew up on OS8 and OS9, the Glory Days.
 
OS8? Glory Days? I don't remember them daze being too much on the glory side when we had to use MacPaint to color graphics or the spinning cow. :)
 
I've never gotten Windows to run as well as in that cartoon! It could almost be the real thing. :)

habilis: That's life. Get a Mac or get a pee cee. It's your choice.
 
Originally posted by habilis
Do they make a redhat version of Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, Quark 5, Dreamweaver MX, Freehand MX, Flash MX, Microsoft Office X, Word, and Entourage? I use these programs heavily, on a daily basis, not to mention many others that get sparratic use like 3dsmax and After Effects. Or what about my favorite games like MoH:AA, Quake, or Neverwinter Nights? If so, then I sure didn't know about it, and if not then redhat is about as technically useful to me as an actual red hat. Besides all that, I'm in the design field and people send me Mac files all the time, the outputters also ask for mac files only, so there's hardly a way around any of this.

Well. You have always GIMP ... and instead of dreamweaver learn to use your freakin editor = write the html manually in any text editor, wysiwygs are for lazy ones ... GIMP has got a lot better, and if you learn to think in or with it, it will do most of the things photoshop does. I think I had a demo of Quake for redhat once so at least the quake existed ... and i found some really cool arkanoid games for linux ...

Anything that exist for any linux or *x thing .. what do you need? compile them.

II wish adobe and macromedia made linux versions of their programs to.

You are asked mac versions of your works? So you get paid enough for having the 'real' programs (as opposed to linux versions or clones) and the OS, afais no problem ... :-/
 
REMARKABLE! It's like the everyday experience I have with our computers at work! Almost dead on....

I just love getting paid to reboot our computers a couple dozen times a day at work...<G>

Microsoft Works....false advertising? False statement? Mais bien sur!
 
Originally posted by habilis
Yeah and now were supposed to actually pay more money for a slower finder in Panther and all the functions that were already in OS9, and then purposely taken out of OSX, like labels. It's all part of the Apple Industrial Corporate Cash Complex. And all the wilingly blind Apple fanatics are out there suckin it all up, adding to the backward hype.

C'mon people we have a pathetic choice of 2 OS's out there. In other words, no choice and no competition, and what happens when you have no choice and no competition? You have a monopoly, which also means you have a corporate dictatorship which means you have No Real Progress and corporate price-fixing. Sorry, but you have NO CHOICE but to pay whatever Apple deems necessary to drive its profit margin so the execs can have a third beach house.

Imagine a world were there's 25 or 30 OS's out there, all cross-compatible. The competition would be so fierce that REAL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES would have to be made to keep the consumers attention. Prices would end up incredibly low, you would be paying about half of what you pay now.

Apple is just as much a corporate killing machine as microsoft.
 
Originally posted by brapper
woah...settle down marx.

brapper. It's exactly the opposite. In effect, our computer industry is a communist structure; there is no choices and no competition, which leads to stagnation, after all, what's the hurry? We Have No Competition.
 
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