PSP vs iPod
- Thread starter Quicksilver
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I agree with most people here that they are too different, mostly in terms of audience and purpose than actual technology.
Yes, the PSD can play music, but you can't really go jogging with it. And people like my mom aren't going to drag one around on the train into Chicago just to listen to smooth jazz. And she sure as hell isn't playing games.
But I could see a 20-30 something year old guy with his PSP sitting next to my mom on the train playing games and/or listening to music to pass time. So in that sense, it might drain a "little" bit from the iPod.
I get the sense that the PSP is primarily a gaming machine (which is totally cool) that also happens to store an dplay music, cuz it's so easy to do, so why not. Icing on the cake, but no threat to iPod. The iPod is just so perfectly tuned into to its own purpose and audience. It doesn't try to be too much.
I'd like to take this opportunity to denegrate myself once more for completely missing the boat on the iPod. When it was first announced, I posted on this site how "ho-hum" it was. Oops. Glad I"m not on Apple's marketing focus group team.
Yes, the PSD can play music, but you can't really go jogging with it. And people like my mom aren't going to drag one around on the train into Chicago just to listen to smooth jazz. And she sure as hell isn't playing games.
But I could see a 20-30 something year old guy with his PSP sitting next to my mom on the train playing games and/or listening to music to pass time. So in that sense, it might drain a "little" bit from the iPod.
I get the sense that the PSP is primarily a gaming machine (which is totally cool) that also happens to store an dplay music, cuz it's so easy to do, so why not. Icing on the cake, but no threat to iPod. The iPod is just so perfectly tuned into to its own purpose and audience. It doesn't try to be too much.
I'd like to take this opportunity to denegrate myself once more for completely missing the boat on the iPod. When it was first announced, I posted on this site how "ho-hum" it was. Oops. Glad I"m not on Apple's marketing focus group team.
Listening to music is much more important to most people than playing computer games. I'm sure I might enjoy the PSP on a few days a month, but I'm enjoying my iPod every day. At home, it feeds my stereo, and then I pick it up when I leave. The PSP is too big to have it with me _all_ the time, the iPod is not.
wow, who the hell said PSP is a protable gamming device?? True it runs games.. But the PSP is _actually_ a portable Media device.. Not just for games silly! It can be used as a mp3-player replacement, watching movies (and there are movie cd's already available for the PSP) and of course play games.. it pwns the iPod anyday!
Convert
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Once again, it simply isn't fair to compare both, because they're different products.
Compare the Creative Zen and the iPod, for sure, but not a multi-purpose device. To be honest, for a primary music player (and competition) the PSP blows, and is no threat to the iPod (iPod is more specialised, more space, smaller).
EDIT:
To be honest, generally, the PSP is a pretty bad MP3 player. Like I said, it doesn't offer that much control, and is huge, especially for a portable music player that has removable media (i.e. no HD), it's a giant.
Compare the Creative Zen and the iPod, for sure, but not a multi-purpose device. To be honest, for a primary music player (and competition) the PSP blows, and is no threat to the iPod (iPod is more specialised, more space, smaller).
EDIT:
To be honest, generally, the PSP is a pretty bad MP3 player. Like I said, it doesn't offer that much control, and is huge, especially for a portable music player that has removable media (i.e. no HD), it's a giant.
fjdouse
UNIX - Live Free or Die
I don't think I recall anyone saying it's a "protable gamming device", but it's primary function and target audience is clear, and having movies ready for it really is little more than a sneaky way of getting people to spend even more money on it. As for "it pwns the iPod anyday" I'm not sure what that means but you really cannot compare the two.wiz said:
The PSP is clearly aimed at the gaming market, as it should be. It looks like a great gaming device. Looks like a good movie player too, presuming the screen looks good.
I still maintain the PSP really won't encroach on the ipod because people listening to portable music simply don't want to have to lug around such a large device. It's that simple.
My large screen TV, stereo and Xbox kick the PSP's ass, but you don't see me comparing them.
I still maintain the PSP really won't encroach on the ipod because people listening to portable music simply don't want to have to lug around such a large device. It's that simple.
My large screen TV, stereo and Xbox kick the PSP's ass, but you don't see me comparing them.
fjdouse
UNIX - Live Free or Die
They will have different customer bases too, will my father want a PSP? No, but an iPod keeps his music collection handy for commuting to work, my sister has an iPod, is she going to buy a PSP? Of course not, what on earth would she do with it? She can't even play Tetris! The PSP is a neat games machine that will appeal to gamers primarily, enough said! No threat to the iPod - at all.
RGrphc2
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fryke said:
I'm with you on that Fry, this one kid i know just spent 500 bucks on a PSP, movies and games. He has been trying to convice me to sell my iPod to get one
, and my main fight against it is, I'm not a Gamer anymore. I used to be, but now i'm not, i'll play games maybe once or twice a month, tops. He just doesn't understand that I was once a PC zealot-gamer, but ever since I "switched" i'm not, lol. If i play a game, it's to relax, not to get aggravated, like Solitare or Minesweeper or Pac-Man. (all on my Dashborad, lol)
Quicksilver
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Ceroc Addict said:
Yes, I ment that the the iPod has a hard drive & iTMS over a PSP. And i do agree that PSP should have a hard drive at least 10GB i am also sick and tired if the sony media/formats, etc.
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Krevinek
Evil PPC Tweaker
HomunQlus said:
Because of the size of the memory sticks available, it isn't too shabby, actually. I carry about half of the episodes of Firefly on a single stick with me, and they look good enough on the screen.
Yes, it is a portable gaming device, although for those like me... it works as a portable media device. For the stuff I like to do, it does it. For me, it reaches convergence of what I want... but it is still focused on games (which is why I got it... but it keeps getting more useful to me in other ways).
Lt Major Burns
"Dicky" Charlteston-Burns
LISTEN to this [i thought of this in a flash of inspiration, and solves the problem]:
*iPod. Plays your music, brilliantly. better, in fact than every other portable way of doing it. also has the ability to play a few games*
*PSP. Plays your games, brilliantly. better, in fact (i'm told) than every other portable way of doing it. also has the ability to play a few mp3's*
i've hit the nail on the head.
they ARE, however, in the same market. the market of "£300 christmas present", of "must-have gadget", and "mans new best friend"
*iPod. Plays your music, brilliantly. better, in fact than every other portable way of doing it. also has the ability to play a few games*
*PSP. Plays your games, brilliantly. better, in fact (i'm told) than every other portable way of doing it. also has the ability to play a few mp3's*
i've hit the nail on the head.
they ARE, however, in the same market. the market of "£300 christmas present", of "must-have gadget", and "mans new best friend"
Lt Major Burns
"Dicky" Charlteston-Burns
by the way: with that post, everyone now thinks you are a tool. sorry to bring it down to that level, but really, that's what's going on here.wiz said:
the PLAYSTATION (a games machine. look up playstation in wiki) Portable is a portable playstation. it's a games machine, with a very good GPU in it, and tons of RAM, relatively.
it does play movies, but not yours - sony's. unless you've swapped your entire DVD collection for UMD's (i love the irony in that acronym)
it does play music - but i'll bet your house you'd take your ipod shuffle jogging with you instead of loading that sucker up with a MemoryStick Pro Duo Maxi Pad.
it's a device for making train journey's shorter. not a multi media device, or not a good one anyway. there are no good, true multimedia devices at the moment, other than a mac. and that's not that pocket size yet.
Krevinek
Evil PPC Tweaker
Lt Major Burns said:
There are two things wrong with this:
1) You aren't limited to UMD movies, you can rip your own and with a little work and patience, you can get good quality out of it too (just not /quite/ what a UMD can offer).
2) Sony opened the UMD format for music/video. Anyone can start producing for the format without Sony's blessing. While this still sucks from the standpoint of price, at least it isn't anywhere close to being as closed as their MD/MS media. When Sony frowns upon the content being released on their format, but can't stop it, you know it is an open format.
Personally I think there is no way the PSP will ever shadow out the Ipod range. The PSP will only appeal to certain people mainly the younger generation and a FEW adult males. Where as the IPod appeals to a wider variety of people from children buying it for cools sake to business men needing something to do whilst on the tube travelling to work and pretty much everyone inbetween.
If someone wants to play music they're more than likely going to buy something specifically designed for that function, an IPod, a mini disc player etc. If they want to play games they'll do the same.
If someone wants to play music they're more than likely going to buy something specifically designed for that function, an IPod, a mini disc player etc. If they want to play games they'll do the same.
georgelien
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Quicksilver said:
PSP is one of the portable media players, aka PMPs.
iPod is only a portable music player.
Two separate segment products.
You're comparing apple's to oranges.
Yes. But so are people out there. And that's the original question. If people "fall" for what the PSP has to offer, does that hurt the iPod. Using categories (PSP is a PMP - actually, it's a gaming device..., iPod's "just" a music player - which it is not, with iSync and colour screen and iPhoto etc.) doesn't help actual market reception. But I guess overall it's still true that a PSP appeals more to the gamers.
georgelien
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fryke said:
PSP is more than just a gaming device. To me, it's a PMP. It will become more obvious once a new version with built-in hard disk drive turns out.
Besides, the screen with 16:9 aspect ratio is too nice for only gaming.
Ceroc Addict
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A slightly different spin on the whole thing - both the iPod (the iPod mini at least) and the PSP are so cheap today that the average person can actually afford to get both (and that situation is only likely to improve in the forseeable future).
Plus, as many people on this board most likely know - gadgets can be very addictive.
Why should the PSP and iPod be seen as being in competition with each other? - maybe it's just a case of making the pie bigger i.e. More truly cool gadgets around => More gadget junkies in the world.
Kap
Plus, as many people on this board most likely know - gadgets can be very addictive.
Why should the PSP and iPod be seen as being in competition with each other? - maybe it's just a case of making the pie bigger i.e. More truly cool gadgets around => More gadget junkies in the world.
Kap