Think about it...

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Originally posted by mindbend
Sim, the troll I was referring to was myself , since I know how you prefer Appleworks over Office.

All your points about MS's illicit practices are fine and legitimate, but here's the problem. It all boils down to sour grapes because, as DeNiro so eloquently said in "Copland", "You [Apple] blew it!" We all know the history, Gates begged/warned Apple what would happen back in the early/mid eighties. Apple ignored him.

As for MS's current position regarding the "force" factor, the public has always had a choice, they unfortunately have just made the wrong one. We, as Mac users, have been choosing the "right" option all along. Kudos to MS for suckering everyone in. Business is ugly.

p.s. I truly believe Apple is on course to do some heavy damage over the next few years. We should expect to see them double market share within two years and gradually sneak up from there to maybe 15-20%. Maybe a bit optimistic, but hey, such is the life of a Mac addict.

OK, good. A small misunderstanding there.

I just get really passionate about this topic, because here in my dorm I sent out an e-mail about Microsoft's conduct (how they threatened to pull Windows from the market should the sanctions be imposed), and people here are actually DEFENDING Microsoft, saying that the sanctions would force Microsoft to do that. I can't BELIEVE that some of them can't see through Microsoft's transparent arguments.

While none of this has to do with the question at hand, it does have to do with why I hate Microsoft with a passion.

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I'm not a Mac troll, and if one thinks that Windows is truly a better product, then I'm not one to say that you shouldn't use it. But I want to make sure that all of these Windows users KNOW what the Mac has to offer and to make an INTELLIGENT choice, not to just be ignorant of the other platforms. AND I want them to know exactly how the company they are buying products from is acting. If Microsoft's illegal behaviors don't bother them, that's their problem, but I just want to make sure that they KNOW of these behaviors.

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[fryke]

Carbon vs. Cocoa again? I think everyone who has to port a classic Mac OS app to Mac OS X will always tell you the same thing: 'Carbon.' While every ex-OpenStep coder will tell you that Cocoa is the way to go. Well, Apple says that both ways are viable, both ways an application will be a first class citizen in the Mac OS X world. But they also state that Carbon is a path from OS 9 to OS X, while Cocoa is the way for new projects (as stated before in this thread and many, many old threads).

My guess is that within half a year you won't be able to really tell a difference from a user's perspective. That's Apple's goal, finally. I also guess that neither Microsoft, Adobe or Macromedia will ever 'port' one of their big apps to Cocoa. It's possible though that they might decide to do a new application in that environment (but even that's arguable).

My point is: Users shouldn't (and shouldn't have to) care at all.

Btw. (and on topic): I *love* the Mac BU @ Microsoft. They rule. Microsoft itself, though, doesn't 'rule', they rule (illegally). Can't someone over there in the USA finally split them up? Preferrably into three companies? (Mac BU, Applications, OS)? Let all of them have all the source code. Apple could then buy the Mac BU and produce AppleOffice for all platforms. That'd be a laugh. Hah, I'm dreaming, I know... The MS Apps part would die in the end, because everyone would want AppleOffice (on Windows, too). And finally, people will notice just how great Apple is and also switch from PCs to Macs. Compaq would pay big bucks for a license to produce clones... And even further down the line, though only a year or two, Intel and AMD will produce cheap G6 processor clones.