This is VERY important that I get this question answered.

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I installed Mac OS X on my PowerBook G3 last night and it works! Hurray. Right? Well I keep asking my self if I should install Jaguar. I put in the CD to see what it says at bootup and it will do that loading thing and then the screen will go black. I got tired of it and unplugged the computer (which I had to do a lot before OS X because of instability) and then I replugged it in (damn battery doesn't work) then booted it up and I had no other time to take the CD out because it would start booting from it. So then I presses the eject button 50 times when the computer started up. Then when the fan came on and the screen came on it ejected. It gave me this dumb question mark which I couldn't restart or shutdown (thanks to the smart people at apple who also had my date on my computer go to 1910 everytime I unplugged for a little bit) so furious as I was I unplugged and poof the computer is dead and failing. The damn power adapter doesn't have a light so I don't know if it is that or the computer failing. And yes I am a windows user experienced with Macs and this is my first mac. I do all the hard work and it fails for a stupid ass reason. You would never have a problem like this on windows and I wanted your thoughts before we go to the store this morning. Thank you for your time!

P.S. I was really looking forward to using Mac as well as Windows for creative and other uses. Don't get me wrong. But Jaguar ruined it. Which really upsets me because my trip to california was based around this. It has been delayed for over a month I just wanted to see what the CD would do at bootup I was 50/50 on installing it.
 
Asking yourself if you should install Jaguar? What version of MacOSX did you install?

Firstly, there's not too much credibility to be found compaining that Jaguar has let you down when the PowerBook G3 is clearly not a supported computer on the system requirements. Yes, you can get MacOSX running on the PB-G3, but it requires some effort.

Sorry to come down on you but you've got to keep a cool head about this one. So unplugging the power causes the machine to shut off and the date to reset to 1910. That usually means the battery is dead. The same thing would happen on a Windows laptop (only the clock would reset to 1979 instead).

A replacement battery is probably not worth the cash on such a dated machine, unless you *really* want to use it as a portable.

So here's what you do:
* Plug it into the power adapter
* Load the install CD into the drive.
* Hold the "C" button while you switch on to force it to boot from CD

If you still can't get it to boot
* Hold Apple, Option, P and R keys together while switching on to reset the PRAM.
 
I hope you are still monitoring this thread bcause I have to say something. The Computer is shorted out or something and it is failing and basically dead. And this battery is new but they didn't charge it the day they got it (months ago so that explains the battery) and a windows laptop might have a bios battery. The First OS X was a success but when I put that Jaguar CD in it didn't work so I unplugged and restarted and pressed eject 50 times to get it out then this dumb question mark came on the screen. So I unplugged again. And now it won't turn on.
 
The BIOS battery is probably dead. It's an old laptop, and as Symphonix said, it Jaguar doesn't support it.

If the computer is shorted as you say, there's nothing that can be done. This goes for PC laptops, Solaris laptops, and any laptop/machinery you can think off.
 
Well I don't know yet. But it could explain why it is not simply turning on at least giving me the noise or fan when I plug it in? It could be the cord but it doesn't have a L.E.D. so I don't know for sure.
 
Your machine has an internal (clock or Pram) battery similiar to a bios battery. That could be bad and would prevent the machine from booting.
 
A power surge (such as a lightning strike), liquid spill or short circuit could easily have damaged both the Power Management Unit (PMU) and the PRAM battery, and it sounds like this is what has happened in this case. Thankfully, though, it does still power up to show you the folder with the flashing ? mark, which is a good sign as it means the Mac is still operating.
You'll need to get it serviced by a qualified tech, preferably one at the Apple store/reseller.
 
Jaguar on a PowerBook G3 should work. Of course, that depends on which PowerBook G3 DarkEx has. I installed it on a Wallstreet II PoweBook G3 300 MHz without any use of XPostFacto. I would have needed XPostFacto for Panther. The Pismo PowerBook (G3 with Firewire) will suport Panther without any third party software.

Of course, if it was an Installation CD that came specifically for a different Power Mac and not the retail full version, then it might not work since it was only made to install on that Mac.
 
This Ram was maxed out and I got rid of the extra stuff so the original OS X install took about 1 gig of space (out of 4 gigs but w/e) it took less than 15 minutes to install the entire original OS X. Ram is above 300 and processor is ok. Whenever the machine is plugged in the time stays but when it is unplugged for a while time gets screwed up (and I had it auto syncronize). But since I just installed an OS and unplugged while the time was screwed up it could of messed things up. I had it taken in and hopefully they fix it (and at a reasonable price because the estimate cost 50 dollars.
 
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