This Jag is a dog, again!

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This episode started with my installation of Jaguar in January. "This Jag is a dog"

I took the recommendations and everything was great for about a week. Now for the last 5 mornings I've had to reach for the reset button to get started. Something is happening during the sleep mode, regardless of whether I have an application (eg. Entourage, WeatherManX) open or not, that is locking up the OS.

Jaguar is worth the investment just to be able to use Safari, but I'm thinking AGAIN that I was better off with 10.1.5

(Norton has not been used since the first episode. 10.2.4 was installed via Software update about a week ago.)
 
Have you looked at any form of a hardware issue? is your G3 a revision 1 or 2?

I've been running 10.2 on my G3 since the day it was released. I have not had one single problem with it. And with the amount of system tweaking I've been doing on here it's an amazement. The only other thing that I would look at besides any hardware issue is take a serious objective look at all software installed and any hacks made to the system. Sometimes it's the most inconspicuous changes that will make problems for the system.

EDIT: Also, did you ever try a clean install of 10.2? From the previous post it sounds like you did an upgrade from the previous install.
 
My G3 is a Rev 1. I had to add a card before I added another 40 Gb Maxtor HD, before I installed OS X. I have always run OS X on a partition of the 40 gig drive and Classic on the original 6 Gb drive. I have never had any significant problems until Jaguar.

I did run a clean install after my prior post that cleared things up for about a week or so.

Here MAY be some clues. I have System Preferences set to change desktop pictures periodically. The picture file is located on a separate firewire drive. Occasionally when the picture change occurs during down time the picture comes up partially scrambled. The other possibility is ThemeChanger.

Does this clang any bells?
 
My only gripe with Jaguar so far, is that it has taken me up to 5 minutes to shut down....and that was immediately after running Mac Janitor (cause?).
 
The situation has suddenly turned much more desperate. Today I can not open a finder window. I can open applications from the dock, but if I try to open anything else the icons disappear from the desktop and then reappear again. And no window opens.
 
Boot from the Jag CD and run repair for both disk and permissions.

Run fsck.

To run fsck, you first need to start up your Mac in single-user mode. Here's how:

1. Restart your Mac.

2. Immediately press and hold the Command and "S" keys.

You'll see a bunch of text begin scrolling on your screen. In a few more seconds, you'll see the Unix command line prompt (#).

You're now in single-user mode.

Now that you're at the # prompt, here's how to run fsck:

1. Type: "fsck -y" (that's fsck-space-minus-y).

2. Press Return.

The fsck utility will blast some text onto your screen. If there's damage to your disk, you'll see a message that says:

***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****

If you see this message--and this is extremely important--repeat Steps 1 and 2 again and again until that message no longer appears. It is normal to have to run fsck more than once -- the first run's repairs often uncover additional problems..

When fsck finally reports that no problems were found, and the # prompt reappears:

3. Type: "reboot" to restart,

or type "exit" to start up without rebooting.

4. Press Return.

Your Mac should proceed to start up normally to the login window or the Finder.
 
Phew!!!!! I think I've finally wiggled my way out of that mess.

THE PROBLEM IS THEMECHANGER!!!!!

Not Norton, not ... whatever.

It's THEMECHANGER, so BEWARE!

Now, let's see what tomorrow brings.
 
It's not ThemeChange it self, it's the themes. Other apps which change themes will cause similar issues. Themes are only compatible with certain OS updates because certain version specific files are replaced. If you're going to use a theme, it must be installed while you have the appropriate OS version installed. I ran into the same problem when I tried to switch to a new theme after I upgraded to 10.2.4. I installed a 10.2.3 theme about a month before 10.2.4 came out. After 10.2.4 was released and installed, everything was fine with the theme I had installed. However, when I decided to switch to a different theme that was only compatible with 10.2.3 things broke. I had to do a new install of 10.2.4 (Save Users and Network settings style) after spending 3 hours trying to recover. I keep my data and OS on separate partitions so reinstalling the OS has little impact on my data.
 
I have followed the instructions recommended by bobw. No problems were found.

I now have no menu bar clock and am unable to restore it through System Preferences. This is getting more and more like a Dell all the time.
 
Couple things:

1. Be careful when using "hack" utilities. Theme changers are hacks. I'm guilty too. I've just been a bit luckier than you. Any installer that asks for your password is _potentially_ in a position to affect the stability of your system, I believe.


2. You might want to consider a reinstall.

3. PleASE don't say 'Dell.' I get jittery. (just a joke)

4. I know that was more than 'a couple things.' sorry. :D

Doug
 
Running AquaFix 2.0.1 and then restarting brought the Menu bar clock back.

I learned a few things during this ordeal, some not directly related to the problem. That's part of what's so cool about having a Mac, even when it throws you a scare.

Thanks to all!

:D
 
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