I don't know what the specific names of those fonts are (the second one is a type of classcal old english), but there are many like them - in fact almost identical - for free download. Go to dafont.com. Great place, lot os fonts.
You know, a good place to start might be iconfactory. They have fonts there, I think, or at least links to other sites that do. You could also try emailing the sites where you find the fonts you like. Find out what they are using. Worth a shot!