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I think it is quite nice, and pretty powerfull too considering the price. Spec Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2.4GHz • 256MB DDR SDRAM • 40GB Hard Drive • 17" Flat Panel Display • 16X/10X/24X CDRW for $1499 pretty good value if you ask me, those are also the P4's with the...

boi Im afraid the Mac G4's tend to suck at stuff like seti and protein folding, ive compared them to my athlon XP many times and they get smoked hopelessly. I dont think there is any altivec code in the clients but the gaps is really that big that even altivec couldnt close the gap to...

fryke we know its not the high end machine, we are just critising the fact that Apple have added DDR to there powermacs leading people to beleive it adds the performace benefits seen in the X86 world to the Mac world which it clearly doesnt. This is shown by comparing one machine of the...

I agree mate he didnt benchmark fairly, he just compared the different platforms etc. But what i said about FSB bandwidth is still true and releavent here.

Backside cache really isnt that important, why do you think Athlons and P4's dont bother with it. Also the reason there isnt really a difference between the DDR and SDR systems is because the FSB is still the same on the Ghz models hence the fsb can still only take PC133 bandwidth yet its...

You shouldnt have to ask nicely when an update is coming out mate. After all they have sold you defective goods and you should expect it fixed pronto. not "Excuse me me me sirrrr but errr when might you be gracing my presense with your all might firmware update". Any other company would...

the inquirer says 333fsb athlons are a go, they are nearly allways right. It will only be a matter of time now.

I use Trillian cos it connects to all networks.

Cant wait for a stock 2Ghz Athlon @ 333 fsb mine is overclocked at the moment too 304mhz fsb but with 166 standard 2.3ghz Athlons @ 440 fsb should be possible with good RAM.

Lets get one thing straight here, you all like to believe that AMD beats intel with lower mhz ratings that is NO longer the case the fastest athlon is now way behind the new 533mhz FSB P4s. That is a fact, when the 3Ghz does come out AMD are gonna need a massive FSB boost or the Hammer procs too...

fryke that is a very good reason to buy a mac and i see your point of view, i was mearly critisizing those who say they buy their mac because it is the fastist thing around etc.

Its good that you mention real world because that is exactly what the videoediting website benches mention in the other threads test, and as i recall the P4 and athlons both hand the G4 its ass on a plate. Im not being nasty or anything like that but it has got to the stage now where G4...

Annihilatus i pointed these facts out a long time ago i mere got ridiculed and passed off as a PC twat, now people are suddenly starting to see the light, if Apple moved over to X86 tommorrow everyone with new macs would be bragging to mates with old PPC macs about how much faster there new...

I thought everyone knew this, but it seems you all must have forgoten, when M$ sees a threat they pounce on it like a starving Great White does to a seal. That is exactly what Apple is to M$ ( the seal ). Apple will never be able to outwit M$ they dont have the resources, cunning and...

hehe beat ya to it :D :D, im also a PC user :D but yes your title was more to the point i just like to keep you guessing.

Looks interesting http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/25421.html New G4 + G5 info.

Thought id make a celebrity appearance :D Ive said it before and ill say it again, Apple will one day, dont know when but one day jump on the AMD clawhammer/ sledgehammer bandwagon.

voice Pretty good thought that. Subliminal messages from Microsoft, ive not heard them accused of that one before :D

Heres a good article i just spotted http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/04/12/microsoft.mac.idg/index.html says MS will intro .Net for Mac platform Havent read it all yet though.

OK, i see where youre going there. I know anything written with J++ does only work with the MS JVM which of course only makes it useable in Windows, I too dont see the point in that and as you say it does go against the entire principle behind Java. I did however read a while ago on...