Apple Apps aren't cutting the mustard...
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Gone !
Here are some remarks to your observations :
Your comments on iCal are somehow right, but most of your points on the rest of the iApps do not find much agreement in my opinion. Mail, Address Book, iTunes, iChat are part of my Dock, and I'm very happy with them. Maybe this thread will show I'm one of the few who are satisfied with those iApps. I'm quite sure it'll show the opposite, esp. about iTunes !
My two cents
Why don't you just take a deep breath and get those mail settings modified ? Total of 4 clicks to make the change.
You can move the drawer to the left if you can't stand it. This makes nobody a dufus, whatever this is.
Because the role of the Address Book is to modify the addresses while the role of the Address Book 'lite' you have in iCal and Mail is just for retrieving addresses. It's UNIX philosophy that one program is assigned to one task. If you want multitask programs visit www.microsoft.com .
Hopefully
Certainly because Apple software is FREE while Microsoft pays people with the money you give them.
I'd like to add iTunes to the list, which is a very good product too indeed. I'd also like to add iChat, even though I'd be more satisfied if it supported MSN accounts. Finally, I'd like to add Mail, you won't agree though.
Your comments on iCal are somehow right, but most of your points on the rest of the iApps do not find much agreement in my opinion. Mail, Address Book, iTunes, iChat are part of my Dock, and I'm very happy with them. Maybe this thread will show I'm one of the few who are satisfied with those iApps. I'm quite sure it'll show the opposite, esp. about iTunes !
My two cents
Really? I was just having a conversation with several friends today about how much we all seem to enjoy Mail.app. In my experience, it comes closer to doing everything correctly than any other MUA.
From what I've seen, drawers open on the side of the window which has space available onscreen. You want drawers on the left, drag your windows to the right.
Yep, iCal's pretty bad. So's iPhoto. In fact, every iApp has been fairly lame upon first release. But they've also all gotten drastically better within a rev or two, frequently surpassing all other options.
From what I've seen, drawers open on the side of the window which has space available onscreen. You want drawers on the left, drag your windows to the right.
Yep, iCal's pretty bad. So's iPhoto. In fact, every iApp has been fairly lame upon first release. But they've also all gotten drastically better within a rev or two, frequently surpassing all other options.
edX
mac shaman
actually, 99% of all apple navigation aids are located on the right. they always have been. this was one of the ways that m$ supposedly differentiated themselves from apple's older gui - moving everything from the right to the left. The right is actually much more intuitive for right handed paople and those who drive on the right side of the road. unless you have spent years using m$ products and have it ingrained in your head that is where they "should" be.
edX
mac shaman
Originally posted by ~~NeYo~~
You Speak English Ed, Sir, not AMERICAN ... We shud remain the Dictators! MU HAHAHA!
Neyo
i disagee. there is english and there is american english. they are similar, but definitly not the same languages
(don't believe me, just ask an aussie or a canuck )Originally posted by Ed Spruiell
i disagee. there is english and there is american english. they are similar, but definitly not the same languages
The Question you must ask yourself is, ho devised it, and who ruined it?!
LOL! (jus playing) ... hehe!
NeYo
You mean like this? (see attachment)
Simply close the drawer by clicking on "Mailboxes", move the main Mail window to the right side of the screen, and click "Mailboxes again" Simple... I had it this way for a while, then I moved it to the right side and liked it.
What do you mean? I don't have that problem...
See my Mail entry above, same solution.
Hmmm... that would be all fine and good, if one needed that much help that often to really matter... I forget it's even there.
That would be Macromedia's and Virex's problem... but like I said, same thing as my previous comment. I rather read the book instead, I'm able to bookmarkit, dog-ear it, highlight text, and write all over it!
You're right, I don't have to worry about Macro Viruses when using iCal!
So... who's forcing you to use one product over another, someone holding a gun to your head or something? You're making it sound like Apple is Microsoft!
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McG4Dual
MacLuv... why I have a feeling of your posts being a little nasty at times? Things like "maybe because I don't feel like" and things like that aren't very Mac Community language. Sorry for an old skool Mac diehard, but I think you should calm down a little. I am not about to start a flame war here, so I will reply to any posts.
I am glad I get answers about all things Mac and be glad I get answers to why things work in some ways. But not go around chewing everyone.
Please dun be nasty ok? Microsoft has lots of boards where you can do that and all their admins are ego gods. But we are merely peace loving Mac users here.
I am glad I get answers about all things Mac and be glad I get answers to why things work in some ways. But not go around chewing everyone.
Please dun be nasty ok? Microsoft has lots of boards where you can do that and all their admins are ego gods. But we are merely peace loving Mac users here.
Javintosh
Meember
A couple of things that have not been covered so far:
one clarification: the drawers open on the last side in which they opened if there is room for the drawer. so close the drawer, move the app all the way to the right. You can then move the apps whereever you like as long as there is room for the drawer.
I should also mention that you should be able to customie the toolbar to move the icon to open the drawer to the left side of the toolbar (maybe with a separator).
also for the record, I muuuuch prefer the drawers to the right. They bug me in the left. I want to go to the top left to read stuff (that is where people start reading afterall), not to use tools.
about mail - I like mail a lot more than any other tool that I used. I love the search bar, and the spamcop .bundle is phenomenal. Mostly, however, I like having the quantity of new emails shown in the dock. I like to eb able to compose a new mail message by clicking on an item in the apps menu and I also love the mail bouncing and redirection features.
also, when you drag messages to the side of a mail window, if you drag the messages to the left, the drawer will open on the left (if there is enough room).
I can't really say much about the addressbook. I never used it until I iSynced all my palm contacts (and ditched Palm Desktop), but the idea of hacing a central contacts database is absolutely great. I downloaded iAddressX. This app uses the addressbook database to put all your contacts on a pulldown menu. for each type of entry, you can display in large type (to go to the phone to dial a phone numer), copy (to paste into documents) or paste at the current insertion point. for email addresses, you can also create a new email with the selectd email address.
as I said, I can't say much about addressbook (since I usually edit things on the palm anyway), but the central contact database is an incredible feature. I expect to see more great apps and more disparate apps sharing this central resource)
(for completeness) - Help is really in need of help! (could not help myself) but I think it largely needs performance tweaks.
I think you totally missed the point about iCal (performance *does* suck, but (like addressbook) you can sync it with your palm/cell phone/iPod (I don't have the cell, but this syncing makes the iPod a viable weekend PDA (palm during the week).
one more thing, the power of iCal is not getting your neighbors calendar (although that is ok I guess). the power of iCal can be seen here: http://www.icalshare.com That web site has over 500 calendars you can subscribe to! It has calendars for everything from Mac Events to Sports events for many sport types and teams to conert dates, movie release dates (theater and DVD/Video) and holidays (both religious and country-specific - over 60 holiday calendars!).
one warning: don't subscribe to too many calendars as this can make the performance worse. I certain the performance will be squared away. I mostly use iCal as a way of getting those calendars into my palm and iPod! You should not underestimate how useful that truly is!
one more thing: Apple's iCal is standard's base. iCal is not available on Lunix or Windows, but there is a Mozilla Calendar project in the works that uses the same, open standard format. You can subscribe to iCal calendars with this software and publish calendars to which iCal users can subscribe: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
You also forgot iSync (which is *incredibly* slow right now as it does not do incremental changes to devices. iSync *is* slow, but this is easily overcome by the fact that my calendar/contatcs are now synced between my computer, palm and iPod. Not only that, but several internet calendars I subscribe to are also synced to these devices!
one clarification: the drawers open on the last side in which they opened if there is room for the drawer. so close the drawer, move the app all the way to the right. You can then move the apps whereever you like as long as there is room for the drawer.
I should also mention that you should be able to customie the toolbar to move the icon to open the drawer to the left side of the toolbar (maybe with a separator).
also for the record, I muuuuch prefer the drawers to the right. They bug me in the left. I want to go to the top left to read stuff (that is where people start reading afterall), not to use tools.
about mail - I like mail a lot more than any other tool that I used. I love the search bar, and the spamcop .bundle is phenomenal. Mostly, however, I like having the quantity of new emails shown in the dock. I like to eb able to compose a new mail message by clicking on an item in the apps menu and I also love the mail bouncing and redirection features.
also, when you drag messages to the side of a mail window, if you drag the messages to the left, the drawer will open on the left (if there is enough room).
I can't really say much about the addressbook. I never used it until I iSynced all my palm contacts (and ditched Palm Desktop), but the idea of hacing a central contacts database is absolutely great. I downloaded iAddressX. This app uses the addressbook database to put all your contacts on a pulldown menu. for each type of entry, you can display in large type (to go to the phone to dial a phone numer), copy (to paste into documents) or paste at the current insertion point. for email addresses, you can also create a new email with the selectd email address.
as I said, I can't say much about addressbook (since I usually edit things on the palm anyway), but the central contact database is an incredible feature. I expect to see more great apps and more disparate apps sharing this central resource)
(for completeness) - Help is really in need of help! (could not help myself) but I think it largely needs performance tweaks.
I think you totally missed the point about iCal (performance *does* suck, but (like addressbook) you can sync it with your palm/cell phone/iPod (I don't have the cell, but this syncing makes the iPod a viable weekend PDA (palm during the week).
one more thing, the power of iCal is not getting your neighbors calendar (although that is ok I guess). the power of iCal can be seen here: http://www.icalshare.com That web site has over 500 calendars you can subscribe to! It has calendars for everything from Mac Events to Sports events for many sport types and teams to conert dates, movie release dates (theater and DVD/Video) and holidays (both religious and country-specific - over 60 holiday calendars!).
one warning: don't subscribe to too many calendars as this can make the performance worse. I certain the performance will be squared away. I mostly use iCal as a way of getting those calendars into my palm and iPod! You should not underestimate how useful that truly is!
one more thing: Apple's iCal is standard's base. iCal is not available on Lunix or Windows, but there is a Mozilla Calendar project in the works that uses the same, open standard format. You can subscribe to iCal calendars with this software and publish calendars to which iCal users can subscribe: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
You also forgot iSync (which is *incredibly* slow right now as it does not do incremental changes to devices. iSync *is* slow, but this is easily overcome by the fact that my calendar/contatcs are now synced between my computer, palm and iPod. Not only that, but several internet calendars I subscribe to are also synced to these devices!
super_pup
scared.weird.little.guy
i love itunes. and imovie. and iphoto. and idvd.
i brought home my dv camera, filmed for 10 mins, plugged it into imovie and within half an hour has created a great looking movie of the crap on my bedroom floor. my dad uses it now to fulfill his creative urges and mum uses iphoto to sort out albums of stuff and share it with rellies overseas. its easy and nothing compares to it in the windows world in terms of ease-of-use. my cousins are green with envy - in fact they got so green they pooled their money and went and bought an emac!
i brought home my dv camera, filmed for 10 mins, plugged it into imovie and within half an hour has created a great looking movie of the crap on my bedroom floor. my dad uses it now to fulfill his creative urges and mum uses iphoto to sort out albums of stuff and share it with rellies overseas. its easy and nothing compares to it in the windows world in terms of ease-of-use. my cousins are green with envy - in fact they got so green they pooled their money and went and bought an emac!
toast
Gone !
No comment.
I'm no magician and I don't use help on my Mac, sorry.
I don't think you really understand my sayings. I am just trying to tell you that you are not given the opportunity to edit the addresses when you don't NEED this opportunity. When I consult my mail, I don't need to change my mates' addresses, whereas when I create contacts in AddressBook I need to be able to create groups, edit data etc.
I understand you would prefer clicking the "Addresses" button in mail to open the Address Book application, though. But that's not my own opinion. By the way, what is DOS ?
I'm still not using the Help Center, I would have told you in my post if I did.
No I'm not suggesting Apple makes freeware with volunteer engineers. I'm just telling you Microsoft has more money to get in the application creation process, which explains why their product may go farther than Apple ones.
I'd like you to stop writing sentences like the one I put in italics as far as I'm concerned. I have no bad feelings against you, I'm not playing devil's advocate. Thanx for understanding my request and respecting what I write without insulting me.
Proteus is much MUCH better than both, take a look at the following URL : http://www.indigofield.com . Supports MSN/AIM/and the lot, really nice GUI.