BootCamp run Windows on Mac

mindbend

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(For the pessimists) Guys, guys, slow down. Do you not understand simple economics? :)

If a product has enough demand to offset development costs and make a profit then it will continue to be created. It's that simple.

If we, as Mac users, decide to just boot to Windows to play Half Life, then yes, HL will not ever appear in OS X. Because essentially the demand for it has died.

But (as one example) I'm not rebooting to run Photoshop and I'm also not going to run Photoshop in Parallels Workstation either. I imagine most Mac users won't. Therefore, the demand is still there. The product will continue to be developed for us.

And if an apps get the axe for OS X, it will be our own fault, not Apple's, not Microsoft's and not Adobe's. The only reason it will get axed is because nobody is buying it. That's our fault. If we love OS X so much, then just continue buying OS X software.

Don't worry! Just keep repeating "If there is demand for a product, it will be built." Yeah, we may only be 3% or whatever, but that's still millions of people. I don't know any rational company that would turn away millions of customers.

And I didn't even mention the fact that Windows is still Windows, which means it's super susceptible to spyware and viruses, so for that reason alone, people are going to want to run natively in OS X.
 

macosxuser

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How about this one.

How many PC users would buy a Dell computer that can run a licensed version of OSX just because of OSX.

I would suspect that it would be not many.

I can't see PC users flocking to the mac because of OSX.

Your either a mac user or your not.

I don't think most PC users really care about Microsoft but they do care about the programs they run.

I think the PC games headz are not going to switch.

Maybe some business or education people might.

I think running windows on a mac will be mostly used by existing mac users for a few games and programs like autocad and photoshop and to run a few other missing mac apps.
 

mindbend

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You just hit one market that nobody seems to be talking about: education.

The once-ripe education market has been dwindling for a while now. I imagine this announcement is going to just about lock in a lot of hardware sales.
 

mw84

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powermac said:
How does Boot Camp handle, like keyboard mapping, on the Mac? Does the Apple key act as the Windows key? Can you configure certain options? Does Airport work well ?

I read a review yesterday, someone had installed Bootcamp on a MBP.

Apparently he had problems with the trackpad mouse, no support for the backlit keyboard and the isight didn't work either, didn't mention key mapping though. Not sure how much of what he is claiming is true or not.
 

Veljo

Mac Enthusiast
mw84 said:
I read a review yesterday, someone had installed Bootcamp on a MBP.

Apparently he had problems with the trackpad mouse, no support for the backlit keyboard and the isight didn't work either, didn't mention key mapping though. Not sure how much of what he is claiming is true or not.
Apple have mentioned that the backlit keyboard and iSight are two things that won't work. They're expecting to include support for these at a later date.
 

powermac

iMac Dual 2.0 17'
mw84 said:
I read a review yesterday, someone had installed Bootcamp on a MBP.

Apparently he had problems with the trackpad mouse, no support for the backlit keyboard and the isight didn't work either, didn't mention key mapping though. Not sure how much of what he is claiming is true or not.
It appears Boot Camp needs some additional work. Just a curious question, I have a PowerBook, and plan on using it for a few more years.
 

eric2006

iMovie Professional
DUE TO THE POTENTIAL THREAT OF SUBVERSION BY COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY THOUGHT PRESENTED BY DUAL-BOOTING INTO WINDOWS USING BOOT CAMP, OUR DEAR LEADER STEVE JOBS (PRAISE BE UNTO HIM!) HAS ORDERED THAT ALL MAC USERS REPORT FOR MANDATORY REPROGRAMMING.
CLICK HERE TO FIND A REPROGRAMMING CENTER IN YOUR AREA.
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As many pundits and members of the Mac community feared, Apple’s decision to allow dual booting of Macs into Windows has caused all OS X developers to abandon the platform. Across the board, developers are telling those who find the OS X environment infinitely more appealing: “Just boot into Windows.”
“This is exactly as I feared,” said Jerry Kindall. “This move to Intel has been the death knell for Apple. Developers have no reason to develop for the Mac when they can easily tell users to spend several minutes rebooting into a crappier operating system that they hate to use.
“It just makes good business sense.”
Experts expect that, at the rate developers are telling users to “just boot into Windows”, within three years the only reason to boot into Mac OS X will be to move some files around with the Finder, play Chess and enjoy brushed metal interfaces.
The situation is so bad that even developers whose applications are OS X-only are telling users to “just boot into Windows.”
“I don’t know why I did it,” said Brent Simmons, developer of NetNewsWire. “I don’t even make a Windows version. What would my customers do after they boot into Windows? Use someone else’s application? Guess I’d better get working on a Windows port.
“You know, I keep thinking there was some reason I decided to develop for the Mac instead of Windows but I just can’t seem to remember what it was…”
Developers have also asked that Mac users hit themselves over the head with a ball peen hammer for no apparent purpose.
- from www.crazyapplerumors.com
 

Myke

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The keyboard layout does seem to be a problem. I am still trying to work out why certain keys wont work - this must be down to the different Mac / PC layout. I don't have a PC keyboard to compare but I am wondering if there's a website out there that maps a key for key comparision. In fact, now I have thought of it, I'll go and take a look!
 
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