Jaguar non-extreme speed improvement?

solrac

Mac Ninja
Apple seems to only advertise speed boosts with Quartz-Extreme.

Well being that I have a 1st gen 400 mhz TiBook I won't get any of those boosts.

But others here have said 10.2 will be faster anyway?

How so? Apple does not advertise it?

10.1 was wayy faster cuz they removed debugging code right?

How is 10.2 faster if you don't get Quartz-Extreme? Did they remove MORE debugging code? LOL
 
Well some possibilities include optimized compilers. I know Apple have been investing heavily in improving compilers on OS X, so that might help. One thing that few people have pointed out, and I am very excited about, is the improved Finder. Not only will the Finder have new features, but it will have much better multithreading support! So we will see less of the "spinning beachball of heck", and we can do more things at once in the Finder. Well, Apple has plenty of time to tweak with OS X, so it's likely there would be SOME speed improvements. After the UI has been getting a little faster with every update.

We'll see.
 
Originally posted by solrac
but is the Finder still Carbon?
if it is, when will it be cocoa??

Dunno, doubt it will be for a while. No need really.

I've heard a lot of good things about it, and the search feature is supposed to be instant.
 
I highly doubt that the reason the Finder is sluggish is an issue with Carbon vs. Cocoa. There are PLENTY of Carbon applications out there that are PLENTY fast -- PhotoShop 7, for example.

I think the Finder is in its infancy stage, and is being worked on tremendously. I think Apple has many plans for many of its applications that aren't implemented yet, and as OS X matures, we will see the speed and snappiness that we are all yearning for.

A big company like Apple doesn't put all their eggs in one basket (ie: OS X in its current state) and risk failure. As fanatical and extreme that Steve Jobs is, he is still a businessman, and knows the ins and outs of being one. I think Apple will continually surprise and delight us with upgrades to OS X that will meet and exceed the expectations of the end users.

Speed is a big issue, and if you look at the readme files included with each OS X update, the speed of individual portions of OS X are continually being optimized for greater speed and stability. I know people bitch and moan about the "overall" speed of OS X, but the whole is nothing more than the sum of its parts, and you don't just go into a program and write code to speed up the whole thing. You speed up the parts that are slow, and you get an overall speed increase in the end.
 
i understand that apple is going to great lengths to improve carbon support, because none of the biggest developers are too quick to migrate to carbon. they are pissed that carbon is a second class API, since they don t want to abandon OS9, or their OS9 code.

so we should see finder improving a lot as a result of the fact that it is going to remain a carbon app for a while.
 
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