News.com: Apple is too much style and no substance ... YEAH RIGHT...

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http://news.com.com/Macintosh+Its+a+Madison+Avenue+thing/2010-7354_3-5532698.html?tag=nefd.ac


I read this article in the morning...and hadnt given it a good read until it was posted at macbytes.com!!!

What dissapoints me most about this article is that the writer is Greek... (and i am greek...)

I repect his opinion that even at this price u can get a pc system with more features than the mac mini (such as screen keyboard etc..)

but what REALLY made me angry is when he underestimates.. or even worse tries to minimize the importness of the application suite called iLIFE!!!
i really do get annoyed because no only is iLife REALLY REALLY cheap if u buy it for 80 dollars.. there is NO matching suite for a pc and at this price and with this integration...... PLUS That it comes free with the Mac mini....

its a shame ppl like this guy have made bill rich and famous... and the world virus full!!!
 
What got me about the article was the example of the children's class presentation. He did not get the gist of why the kid would get high marks for his presentation, he has no clue whatsoever. That example he uses, with his conculsion, gives me the sneaking feeling that he secretly hates Apple and it's products.
 
The difference between very good and excellent is almost always just a sliver of vision, effort and observation. Apple understands that and breathes excellence into every product it makes... (except for the TiPowerbooks, but that is another thread.)

Shop a WalMart; then shop a Target. WalMart is a very good retailer. Target is an excellent merchandiser. Same with Home Depot and Lowes.

Examples are everywhere. Cell phone accessories: I own a generic clip holder for a Motorola phone from Radio Shack. Hard to clip on and off, TEETH on the release. The Motorola-brand clip that holds the same phone has smooth edges and "glides" on the clip. Both hold the phone to my belt. One is very good; the other is excellent.

Disney and Warner Brothers. One is a very good producer of visual media; the other is an excellent creator of a lifestyle with their own channel and controlled "cities."

Apple is no different than most any other industry. They are just excellent is a sea of very good companies.

G.
 
Hee hee... check out some of the comments. Especially this headline: "Mike, you risk the wrath of the Macosphere--mightier than the blogosphere!" I particularly like this one because I'm such an avid blog reader.
 
Still, with Apple, I can't help but feel that I am being judged by the cut of my chassis.
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Seems the man has an esteem deficit - maybe didn't get enough hugs as a kid.:D
 
It really felt like a cheap read with no substance. He had to write a crappy article, so he thought he'd pick on Apple for being pretty.
 
i got the additude from his article that even if the mac mini was priced at $99 he would still not buy one because he does not like mac at all because we are too snooty or something. I had a hard time taking him seriously, especially when he can't do some simple math like that dell he mentioned would actually be 4 times larger, roughly.
 
Hmm... I _gotta_ add to this thread that while you're all right and that he is a little biased, he _does_ have one point: I don't see people show off their family photos on DVDs or on iPhoto slideshows with soundtracks. But at the same time, I think he keeps forgetting that although family portraits etc. are the things _used_ in Apple's presentations, you don't actually have to use the software this way. You can take photographs of ANYthing you want. For me personally, this means that I'll have my girlfriend take pictures of the poetry readings and poetry slams I perform on and organise, and iPhoto helps me selecting the good shots for a presentation. Whether I put that presentation on a DVD or on the web - iLife lets me do those things easily. Still: He _does_ have the point of Apple maybe overdoing it sometimes with the family stuff...
 
My best argument to answer the whole "Mac vs. PC question" is to just say that before Microsoft there was Apple. The only reason Microsoft exists is because they steal every good idea Apple has ever had.

Does Windows 2000 look just a little like OS X? Hmmm… :)
 
fryke said:
he _does_ have one point: I don't see people show off their family photos on DVDs or on iPhoto slideshows with soundtracks. But at the same time, I think he keeps forgetting that although family portraits etc. are the things _used_ in Apple's presentations, you don't actually have to use the software this way. You can take photographs of ANYthing you want. For me personally, this means that I'll have my girlfriend take pictures of the poetry readings and poetry slams I perform on and organise, and iPhoto helps me selecting the good shots for a presentation. Whether I put that presentation on a DVD or on the web - iLife lets me do those things easily. Still: He _does_ have the point of Apple maybe overdoing it sometimes with the family stuff...
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You've lost me - sorry!

In my experience, people using Windows (and i was one of them until relatively recently) don't know HOW to show family photos etc.!

Following on from this, I believe_nothing_ is more important than "family" and I don't understand why you would think that Apple could "overdo" their advertising in this respect? Haven't they already got the attention of the "creatives"?

I sold "Apple" to 8 members of my family in the last 12 months... (because they couldn't argue with the "ease of use" of my PB!)
 
I wouldn't underestimate the family thing. I do family stuff all the time. I've always got the laptop set up with a family slide show at gatherings. They love it.

I don't do much family video, cuz frankly, even with very easy tools like iMovie/iDVD, it's still apain in the ass to continually make family movies. I don't have time for that. Plus, I use FCP and DVDSP anyway, but whatever…

I hired a freelance copywriter this week for huge web project. She overheard us Macheads talking about the new products this week so she started checking out Apple's website. What surprised me was that she was enthralled with iLife. She wanted me to explain it to her more, which I did. Basically, iLife does everything she wants and does it easily and in an integrated manner. She may end up with a Mac mini (with iLife) before this project is done. My point is that she is a perfect example of a frustrated Windows user who just wants to manage their family photos, make some videos and burn some DVDs. She cannot pull it off on her brand new 17" gateway laptop even though all the software and DVD burner is there, cuz she and her husband just can't get it to all come together. I doubt she'd have the same trouble with iLife.

So, in summary, family stuff may not be everyone's prime need for iLife, but it's a big issue with a lot of people and an important angle for Apple. Especially in that massive middle consumer market.
 
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