Second Life

Amie

Mac Convert for Life
Does anyone here participate in Second Life? I just signed up and clicked on the link to activate my account, and it brought me to a page that says I have to download and install the Second Life client in order to do anything? I didn't realize there was a third-party app/client involved. I'm always iffy about those things. Is anyone familiar with it? Is it safe?
 
Second Life is really widely used, so I'd say it's safe. The application is what allows you to visually interact with the world and the people; it is far, far too complicated to do through a browser.
 
Second life is a very popular MMOC - one of the most popular, I believe. They are credible. Apparently, the code is slower than the windows version, but I have found no reports of bad installs. You could always use something like AppZapper.
 
Hm. I thought the same about iChat. Instead of running in a webbrowser, you have to actually use a separate application. I find those shady. ;) Seriously: You don't want such a thing as SL to run in a browser, performance-wise.
 
Hey, guys, thanks for the input! But I'm a little confused now (as usual). A few of you mentioned Second Life is too complicated to run in a browser. Um, if I'm not running it through my browser, how will I be connected to the Internet? I thought I needed a Web browser to access the Web site and interact...
 
The client will connect to the second life "world". It accesses the internet as a browser does, except it is getting data about objects, movements, etc in the world. The website is a different thing altogether - it's for news, downloads, etc.
 
Ah ... I see! OK, thanks, folks. Guess I'll give it a whirl. I really don't know much about it. Do you guys play? I have it envisioned sort of like a personal version of The Sims. LOL
 
Don't use Second Life if you have an addictive personality. :) Fair warning.. that goes for World of Warcraft as well.. speaking from experience here. :)

It's much MORE than a 'game' because it really isn't a game at all.. Second Life is many things to many people, but ultimately it's a social network with 3D graphics. It's being able to do all the things in your first life that you can't do because of physical limitations, and sometimes social ethic ones. That in itself is a powerful lure.
 
Don't use Second Life if you have an addictive personality. :) Fair warning.. that goes for World of Warcraft as well.. speaking from experience here. :)

It's much MORE than a 'game' because it really isn't a game at all.. Second Life is many things to many people, but ultimately it's a social network with 3D graphics. It's being able to do all the things in your first life that you can't do because of physical limitations, and sometimes social ethic ones. That in itself is a powerful lure.

OMG ... OK, I HAVE to get Second Life now. That sounds incredible. And, yes, I have an addictive personality. :eek:
 
Help. I went to "Events" and tried to "teleport now" to the location. I keep getting an error message: "Firefox does not know how to open the page" (or something like that). I was just trying to go there and participate from Firefox. I haven't downloaded/installed anything yet. Is that the problem? Not sure how this works. Do I just click on the Second Life icon once I install it to participate and not use Firefox for it at all? Is it like a program/app in its own? Just wanted to quickly try it out via Firefox, but it won't let me. :(
 
You won't be able to launch it from Firefox because firefox isn't the client. Think "The Sims Online" - your browser doesn't have any data about the game, so it won't be able to do anything, even if you can point it at the game server.

I'm guessing that you launch the client, enter some sort of login info, then get into the world.
 
Yes. It's very simply a separate client. Forget about "running it in a browser", that's not how it works at all. You run the Second Life application, which connects to a server on the internet. The Web ? The Internet. The web is only one way to _use_ the internet. E-Mail is another. Newsgroups are yet another. Instant messaging is _also_ its own. Second Life is very clearly _not_ something on the web. It has its own client application, which you _will_ have to download and install if you want to go on SL.
 
I downloaded and installed Second Life ... and have been trapped in Orientation Island (the tutorial) ever since. This is partly due to the fact that the system requirements are 512 in memory, and I only have 256. So, not everything works right, and it's VERY slow. I've been wanting to upgrade to 512 anyway, so I'll put SL on hold for now ... until I get the additional RAM.

Anyone have any idea about how much it'll cost me if I take my iBook to the Apple store and have it installed there? I know it's cheaper to buy the RAM from an online dealer, but I don't want to take a chance of trying to install it myself and screwing something up.
 
I don't think that Apple will install non-apple RAM, so it could be ~ 300. However, to replace the RAM on your iBook, you literally have to remove one screw, so you could easily install it yourself. If you want to be sure it's compatible, get Kingston, Crucial, or Apple RAM.

Try setting graphics settings lower, if possible.
 
I don't think that Apple will install non-apple RAM, so it could be ~ 300. However, to replace the RAM on your iBook, you literally have to remove one screw, so you could easily install it yourself. If you want to be sure it's compatible, get Kingston, Crucial, or Apple RAM.

Try setting graphics settings lower, if possible.

Thanks, Eric. Since you seem to be so knowledgeable about these things, I have two more questions while you're here:

1) Can you please post a link where I could order RAM compatible with my iBook G4? (Please make sure it's a reputable, trustworthy site.)

2) How can I get instructions on how to install my RAM once I've received it? Is there a particular online article for iBookG4s?

Sorry to bog you down with this. I just REALLY would like to upgrade, but I don't want to pay a huge amount, so if I can do it myself without messing anything up...

Thanks a bunch! :)
 
I find that iFixit guides are easy to use, and it looks like they have your model:
12"
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-12-Inch/RAM/83/4/
14"
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-14-Inch/RAM/84/4/

Crucial RAM has been known to work well with macs, this will work with your laptop:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=iBook (G4 1.2GHz)

Kingston is good as well:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...ys_line=iBook+G4&distributor=0&submit1=Search
You could try Ramseeker Mac, but that's a bit more risky:
http://www.ramseeker.com/
 
yes, ram on an ibook is very, very easy.

go to www.crucial.com and have them direct you to your required purchase, and be sure to buy 512mb, if not 1gb. the difference should be astounding.

with this much ram, you will now be able to have an almost unlimited amount of full programs all open and working beautifully.

also, here's an easy guide on how to:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-14-Inch/RAM/84/4/

Thanks very much for the info! I copied and pasted your message into a Sticky, for when I'm ready to make the purchase. Just one thing, though: I don't believe my iBook can hold 1gb. It shipped with 256mb and can only be upgraded to 512mb. If memory serves me correctly.
 
I find that iFixit guides are easy to use, and it looks like they have your model:
12"
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-12-Inch/RAM/83/4/
14"
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-14-Inch/RAM/84/4/

Crucial RAM has been known to work well with macs, this will work with your laptop:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=iBook (G4 1.2GHz)

Kingston is good as well:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...ys_line=iBook+G4&distributor=0&submit1=Search
You could try Ramseeker Mac, but that's a bit more risky:
http://www.ramseeker.com/

Thanks, Eric!
 
Thanks very much for the info! I copied and pasted your message into a Sticky, for when I'm ready to make the purchase. Just one thing, though: I don't believe my iBook can hold 1gb. It shipped with 256mb and can only be upgraded to 512mb. If memory serves me correctly.

Your 1.2 GHz iBook G4 has 256MB built-in (permanently part of the logic board), and one memory slot where you can add one 256, 512, or 1GB chip - So, you can upgrade to as much as 1.25GB total. You just need to make sure to purchase the correct memory type.
 
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