Thunderbird profile folder

nealt

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I tried locating this folder. Apparently it was never created. I want to change some fonts in Thunderbird and apparently one must use a userChrome.css file in the profile folder to do this. I looked into Thunderbird's content folder and Application support and could not find them. Apparently I must create them. So where do I create this profile folder for Thunderbird?
 

DeltaMac

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Look in your Library folder. There should be a folder named (surprisingly!) Thunderbird
Your Library folder is the one in your user (home) folder that is normally hidden.
Make it appear by holding Option while opening the "Go" menu in the finder. Select Library from that menu, and yours should open. Thunderbird should be one of the folders there, and you should not need to open any other folders to find it. Open that Thunderbird folder, and you should see a Profiles folder. I can't help you with how to use what you find there - I have had Thunderbird installed since 2012, and keep it updated, but rarely use it.
 

nealt

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Look in your Library folder. There should be a folder named (surprisingly!) Thunderbird
Your Library folder is the one in your user (home) folder that is normally hidden.
Make it appear by holding Option while opening the "Go" menu in the finder. Select Library from that menu, and yours should open. Thunderbird should be one of the folders there, and you should not need to open any other folders to find it. Open that Thunderbird folder, and you should see a Profiles folder. I can't help you with how to use what you find there - I have had Thunderbird installed since 2012, and keep it updated, but rarely use it.
Well there is no folder called Thunderbird. Also none in the main library folder. I could create one and then create a profile folder in there Should I do this?
 

DeltaMac

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Are you certain that you are in the correct Library folder?
I'm not sure how else to say this ... :cool:
The Thunderbird folder won't be in the main Library, but you should see it in "your user folder"/ Library.
The path to that location will be ~/Library. You can type that path, as is, in the Finder Go menu, Go To Folder...

What happens when you:
From the finder, press Shift-Command-G
Replace whatever is in the box with ~/Library/Thunderbird
(You should see the contents of the Thunderbird folder)

How long have you been using Thunderbird?
Looking around in prefs, looks like you can do a few changes to fonts right there, in Thunderbird's preferences/Display, where you can select "Advanced" for more control over fonts. Maybe you can make the changes that you want there, and no need to manually make any changes.
Hope that helps!
 

nealt

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Are you certain that you are in the correct Library folder?
I'm not sure how else to say this ... :cool:
The Thunderbird folder won't be in the main Library, but you should see it in "your user folder"/ Library.
The path to that location will be ~/Library. You can type that path, as is, in the Finder Go menu, Go To Folder...

What happens when you:
From the finder, press Shift-Command-G
Replace whatever is in the box with ~/Library/Thunderbird
(You should see the contents of the Thunderbird folder)

How long have you been using Thunderbird?
Looking around in prefs, looks like you can do a few changes to fonts right there, in Thunderbird's preferences/Display, where you can select "Advanced" for more control over fonts. Maybe you can make the changes that you want there, and no need to manually make any changes.
Hope that helps!
 

DeltaMac

Tech
Were you going to respond to my post? There's nothing there, except my post
 

nealt

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Yes I have the right library file. In the thunderbird folder I created a profile folder with a Chrome folder with a userChrome.css file. What I want to do is increase the size and the font of the message list. I tried using:

/* Global UI font */
* { font-size:20pt !important;
font-family: timesnewroman !important;
}
/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning */
/* set default namespace to XUL */
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/* Set Font Size In Folder Pane */

#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
font-size: 30pt !important; }

/* Set Font Size In Thread Pane */

#threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
font-size: 30pt !important; }


This did not change anything.
 

DeltaMac

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Your changes worked the first time for me - thanks!
(Makes my fonts TOO large in Thunderbird, but I did see that it worked.)

If you used that path /Thunderbird/Profile/Chrome/ - that looks wrong.

Try this: ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/default/xxxxxxxx.slt/chrome/
(Obviously, change xxxxxxxx.slt to whatever the folder name is inside your /default folder!)

I don't know how to help you find the folder that Thunderbird creates, but it has to be somewhere in your user/Library folder.
The path that I offered above is where it is on my own Mac.
 

nealt

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So I have to create a folder named "default".
Then what is XXXXXX.sit? Is this a folder.


Your changes worked the first time for me - thanks!
(Makes my fonts TOO large in Thunderbird, but I did see that it worked.)

If you used that path /Thunderbird/Profile/Chrome/ - that looks wrong.

Try this: ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/default/xxxxxxxx.slt/chrome/
(Obviously, change xxxxxxxx.slt to whatever the folder name is inside your /default folder!)

I don't know how to help you find the folder that Thunderbird creates, but it has to be somewhere in your user/Library folder.
The path that I offered above is where it is on my own Mac.
 

DeltaMac

Tech
I think you are correct.
That xxxx(whatever) is a random name for the folder that Thunderbird creates for the user profile.
You still have to find where Thunderbird makes that folder (not just make it yourself)
I am not sure if Thunderbird will use some random name that you make up, and I'm not sure if you can force Thunderbird to do that. Might work, might not.
That folder must be somewhere on your boot drive, as Thunderbird creates it when launched the first time.
You just haven't found it yet. I told you where to look (in your home folder/Library/ folder.
I am guessing you must be running on Catalina? Folder could be in a different location, I don't yet use Catalina, and haven't spent much time looking around for app-created folders and files, so some may be stuck in unusual spots, I suppose.

Finally, the XXXXXX.slt --- the extension is .slt -- not .sit --- that's an el, not an eye --- and it is a folder name.
(that folder, on MY Mac is named 2s5vqihf.slt -- so, it's a random. It would likely be different on each Mac that has Thunderbird.)

good luck in hunting down the folder (which already exists if you have been using Thunderbird. It's there, somewhere)

Please tell me that you already know that your User home folder Library folder is hidden, by default, and you know how to make it visible. Your Thunderbird folder has to be there -- it's where Thunderbird puts it by default.
 

nealt

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I used easy find to locate any .slt file on all my drives including the boot drive and the user drive. No .slt file was found
I think you are correct.
That xxxx(whatever) is a random name for the folder that Thunderbird creates for the user profile.
You still have to find where Thunderbird makes that folder (not just make it yourself)
I am not sure if Thunderbird will use some random name that you make up, and I'm not sure if you can force Thunderbird to do that. Might work, might not.
That folder must be somewhere on your boot drive, as Thunderbird creates it when launched the first time.
You just haven't found it yet. I told you where to look (in your home folder/Library/ folder.
I am guessing you must be running on Catalina? Folder could be in a different location, I don't yet use Catalina, and haven't spent much time looking around for app-created folders and files, so some may be stuck in unusual spots, I suppose.

Finally, the XXXXXX.slt --- the extension is .slt -- not .sit --- that's an el, not an eye --- and it is a folder name.
(that folder, on MY Mac is named 2s5vqihf.slt -- so, it's a random. It would likely be different on each Mac that has Thunderbird.)

good luck in hunting down the folder (which already exists if you have been using Thunderbird. It's there, somewhere)

Please tell me that you already know that your User home folder Library folder is hidden, by default, and you know how to make it visible. Your Thunderbird folder has to be there -- it's where Thunderbird puts it by default.
I think you are correct.
That xxxx(whatever) is a random name for the folder that Thunderbird creates for the user profile.
You still have to find where Thunderbird makes that folder (not just make it yourself)
I am not sure if Thunderbird will use some random name that you make up, and I'm not sure if you can force Thunderbird to do that. Might work, might not.
That folder must be somewhere on your boot drive, as Thunderbird creates it when launched the first time.
You just haven't found it yet. I told you where to look (in your home folder/Library/ folder.
I am guessing you must be running on Catalina? Folder could be in a different location, I don't yet use Catalina, and haven't spent much time looking around for app-created folders and files, so some may be stuck in unusual spots, I suppose.

Finally, the XXXXXX.slt --- the extension is .slt -- not .sit --- that's an el, not an eye --- and it is a folder name.
(that folder, on MY Mac is named 2s5vqihf.slt -- so, it's a random. It would likely be different on each Mac that has Thunderbird.)

good luck in hunting down the folder (which already exists if you have been using Thunderbird. It's there, somewhere)

Please tell me that you already know that your User home folder Library folder is hidden, by default, and you know how to make it visible. Your Thunderbird folder has to be there -- it's where Thunderbird puts it by default.
 

nealt

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I am running Mojave. I know where the user library is located. I used app delete to delete all Thunderbird files then reinstalled Thunderbird. Still no slt folder or chome folder were created anywhere on the boot disk or the user disk. There is a Thunderbird folder in the user library which contains a profiles folder with a s6lhvov.default-release folder and a uniie7qu.default folder.
 

DeltaMac

Tech
OK
Launch Thunderbird, click on Preferences, then Display, then Formatting, finally, Colors...
Change something that will definitely modify Chrome, such as Unvisited Links color.
That should force the Chrome file to change somewhere, then you just find it.

Well, of course, I just tried it. Nothing that I can find is a new userchrome.css.
The only file that seemed to change as a direct result is (myuserlibrary)/Preferences/org.mozilla.thunderbird.plist file
Which doesn't seem to be what you want, and nothing in THAT file appears to have a font change, nor anything similar to that.
I wonder if those changes are done in javascript (and the "old" mozilla standard files are deprecated (?) )
 

nealt

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I agree. Apparently the profiles folder is no longer used in the latest versions of Thunderbird. I am using version 68.5.
So does anyone have any ideas?


OK
Launch Thunderbird, click on Preferences, then Display, then Formatting, finally, Colors...
Change something that will definitely modify Chrome, such as Unvisited Links color.
That should force the Chrome file to change somewhere, then you just find it.

Well, of course, I just tried it. Nothing that I can find is a new userchrome.css.
The only file that seemed to change as a direct result is (myuserlibrary)/Preferences/org.mozilla.thunderbird.plist file
Which doesn't seem to be what you want, and nothing in THAT file appears to have a font change, nor anything similar to that.
I wonder if those changes are done in javascript (and the "old" mozilla standard files are deprecated (?) )
 

DeltaMac

Tech
Can you be more specific about what you want to achieve?
There ARE limited font settings in Thunderbird's preferences.
What more do you need?
 

nealt

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I want to change the font and font size in the message preview window.It looks nice in the screenshot but in actuality the font displays rather thin and light.


9525

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Can you be more specific about what you want to achieve?
There ARE limited font settings in Thunderbird's preferences.
What more do you need?
 

DeltaMac

Tech
What is the result if you change to a different font in thunderbird preferences?

Not sure if I am helping.
But, how about helping ME?
My Thunderbird messge listing is white characters on dark grey (not black) background, and I cannot change it to the black characters on white that you show on your screen capture.
Nothing that I do changes to reverse the message window from the white on black that I have now.
Any ideas about THAT?
(I continue to stay on Mojave, and won't upgrade to Catalina, which makes that annoying dark interface even worse (in my opinion, anyway :D )
 
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