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Launch IE, Omni Web, Hotline, Carrcho, iTunes, NAV, Limewire, MP3 Rage, AppleWorks, Cinema 4D, BodyPaint 6.3, Bryce 5, Painter 7, Freehand 10, Graphic Converter, Preview, Toast PB1 , BBEdit Lite at the same time.....

Yeap...apps launch real quick but when the last app is launch.....instant KERNEL PANIC!

Now I learn I should not launch over 10 apps at once :D






{EDIT} "Launch" in here means "starting up"....see my next reply..
 
There are people here that compete by posted screen shots that show how many app on their machine they have launched at one time, and it's a lot more than 10. I think we've all tried it once or twice. I don't believe it's the OS in general that is having a problem, it may be your particular install of the OS, which is probably corrupt in some way. Run Disk Util, and see if there is a prroblem with the file structure, or possibly check your memory. Bad memory can somtimes do this.
 
What I said "launch" in my post was starting up

I have tons of apps open in OSX (maybe over 20 something).

What I meant in the last post is that never try to start up over 10 apps at once. The HD will have to keep pace with all those apps and that may cause kernel panic.

That's what I meant....sorry if I confuse you guys :(
 
Originally posted by Leonis
What I said "launch" in my post was starting up

I have tons of apps open in OSX (maybe over 20 something).

What I meant in the last post is that never try to start up over 10 apps at once. The HD will have to keep pace with all those apps and that may cause kernel panic.

That's what I meant....sorry if I confuse you guys :(
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OK, that makes more sence.
 
I just launched 13 apps all at once no problem at all

Terminal
ProcessViewer
Address Book
Transmit
TextEdit
Sherlock
Acrobat Reader 5.0
OmniWeb
Internet Explorer
Fire
Console
iTunes
Chess

and all of these finished opening in under 30 seconds.

I tried this on 3 different machines some apps varied but all worked.

sounds like you mave have a problem
 
I tried to start up 13 very light apps like preview, processor view , Acrobat....etc no problem.

....but half of the apps that I mentioned before are heavy apps and are sitting on different partitions.....
 
Originally posted by Leonis
I tried to start up 13 very light apps like preview, processor view , Acrobat....etc no problem.

....but half of the apps that I mentioned before are heavy apps and are sitting on different partitions.....
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Noticed that most of your apps are very common on Carracho, and Carracho is on your list. Carracho is not exactly the most reliable source for clean apps or OS's. I'm not saying your pirating software, but I would wager on the side that you probably are like everyone else here. You might want to consider your methods before you start pointing fingers at Apple. For all we know you got beta copies of all the apps, and the OS, which could be corrupt or contain viruses. And I'll overlook that Cinema and BodyPaint are on your list, since I work and speak with the programmers every day. :eek:
 
I just opened up my applications folder, hit command-a, and then selected "Open" from the contextual menu. Everything went fine... and the undulating string of icons was cool too.
 
I just launched all the apps on my dock, about 20 of them and I had no problems. I did this twice and for the first time with 576mb of RAM, I had pageouts shown in Top and only 7mb of free RAM. No kernel panics in X since March 24th when Quickeys in Classic caused a kernel panic.
 

I just opened up my applications folder, hit command-a, and then selected "Open" from the contextual menu
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I accidentally launched every single application in my apps folder by doing that (but double-click instead of contextual menu), and they all launched fine. The pain was having to go through and Cmd-Q all of them!
 
Originally posted by ezra


Noticed that most of your apps are very common on Carracho, and Carracho is on your list. Carracho is not exactly the most reliable source for clean apps or OS's. I'm not saying your pirating software, but I would wager on the side that you probably are like everyone else here. You might want to consider your methods before you start pointing fingers at Apple. For all we know you got beta copies of all the apps, and the OS, which could be corrupt or contain viruses. And I'll overlook that Cinema and BodyPaint are on your list, since I work and speak with the programmers every day. :eek:
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Couldn't it be a problem of diskspace? I would assume that Bryce and Painter both need large amounts of scratch space. And although it is probably not related at all I've known Photoshop6 on Win2k to collide neatly with window's virtual memory and cause all sorts of problems.
 
Now I am starting to suspect the problem is from either one of them:

1) Carracho
2) iTunes.....
3) MP3 Rage
4) LimeWire


I tried to startup many applications at the same time again (without these four) and had no problems......

I remember back to the 10.04 days these four "suspected" apps did give me kernel panics

I will let you guys know when I am feeling sure


ps. I DO own software! ;)
 
Limewire was a problem for me as was Carracho. I never had a kernel panic, but they both crashed on me when using 10.0.4
I would try Mactella in place of Limewire, as I had good luck with it, after waiting 5 minutes or so to seek out and connect to their servers.
I use iTunes all the time, and never had any problem with that on any of my many Macs that I use with OS X.
 
Originally posted by theolein


Couldn't it be a problem of diskspace? I would assume that Bryce and Painter both need large amounts of scratch space. And although it is probably not related at all I've known Photoshop6 on Win2k to collide neatly with window's virtual memory and cause all sorts of problems.
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It could be a lot of things considering how a lot of people go about their business these days. He could also have cheap memory and HD's. Cheap memory will cause this kind of behavior, especially with memory intensive applications such as the ones on his list.
 
Originally posted by Leonis
Now I am starting to suspect the problem is from either one of them:

ps. I DO own software! ;)
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Yeah, but which ones? I'll tell you what, if you can scan a random page from each of the manuals, including OS 10.1, I'll believe and consider your problem to be legit. Until then I'll just chalk it up to opperator error. I think we should just leave it at that since we all know it works well on our machines.
 
So far Limewire is the biggest suspect.....

I lauch iTunes and Hotline and Carracho along with other Cinema (native) and Word 98 (classic) and so far okay....haven't seen kernel panic....

I also tried starting Limewire with Cinema and Word....boom! instant kernel panic.....I don't know if it's the java thing in Limewire causing the problem.......

I will try it a few more times to make sure if I am right or wrong and will stop...I don't want to lose anything on my hard drive :(
 
ezra, Why does someone have to prove to you they legitimately own software before helping them out with a problem?
I know of several people who own computers, both Mac and PC that don't work right, when mine does, but I don't ask them for proof of ownership before helping them.
 
I opened all apps in ulility, app and dev apps all at once on my 400MHz firewire powerbook (400MHz, 256MB ram). The results of top is:

Processes: 85 total, 9 running, 76 sleeping... 243 threads 16:58:34
Load Avg: 12.91, 10.95, 10.59 CPU usage: 75.4% user, 24.6% sys, 0.0% idle
SharedLibs: num = 134, resident = 17.3M code, 816K data, 3.57M LinkEdit
MemRegions: num = 8364, resident = 99.7M + 10.4M private, 68.2M shared
PhysMem: 35.7M wired, 145M active, 70.5M inactive, 251M used, 5.10M free
VM: 4.61G + 60.5M 83455(83455) pageins, 93238(93238) pageouts

PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE
4017 top 0.0% 0:00.52 1 14 15 284K 264K 520K 1.45M
3876 DirectoryS 0.0% 0:00.18 3 35 39 320K 592K 896K 3.56M
3870 MallocDebu 0.0% 0:00.69 1 58 67 924K 3.97M 2.57M 57.7M
3869 PackageMak 0.0% 0:00.85 1 58 70 968K 4.68M 3.41M 58.7M
3868 MRJAppBuil 0.0% 0:26.56 15 211 226 13.6M 11.1M 21.6M 253M
3867 Interface 0.0% 0:02.61 1 63 110 2.49M 5.07M 5.93M 61.7M
3866 IconCompos 0.0% 0:01.17 1 58 73 1.08M 4.23M 3.09M 58.1M
3864 icns Brows 0.0% 0:00.44 1 52 56 516K 3.14M 1.47M 52.6M
3863 OpenGLInfo 0.0% 0:00.76 1 60 76 824K 4.69M 3.28M 58.6M
3862 tcsh 0.0% 0:00.27 1 24 15 440K 520K 908K 5.72M
3861 Quartz Deb 0.0% 0:00.88 1 58 72 1.41M 3.94M 2.89M 58.0M
3860 FileMerge 0.0% 0:00.84 1 61 72 948K 4.15M 2.80M 58.3M
3859 Sampler 0.0% 0:00.74 1 58 69 988K 3.85M 2.60M 57.8M
3858 PropertyLi 0.0% 0:00.76 1 58 69 864K 5.11M 3.73M 59.0M
3857 PEFViewer 0.0% 0:10.37 1 45 55 380K 3.18M 1.10M 52.6M
3856 Apple Help 0.0% 0:10.90 2 67 61 400K 3.25M 1.18M 53.9M
3855 Thread Vie 0.0% 0:00.69 1 55 64 844K 3.54M 2.06M 57.8M
3854 Pixie 0.0% 0:24.85 1 57 66 1.20M 3.48M 2.19M 57.2M
3853 JavaBrowse 0.0% 0:01.41 1 60 108 1.65M 5.28M 4.79M 60.0M
3852 IORegistry 0.0% 0:04.78 1 303 76 2.77M 4.61M 5.05M 60.1M
3851 ObjectAllo 0.0% 0:01.58 1 61 125 3.37M 5.99M 5.83M 78.1M
3849 DebugNubCo 0.0% 0:00.67 1 58 68 796K 3.63M 2.13M 57.5M
3847 tail 0.0% 0:00.21 1 12 13 24K 232K 204K 1.25M
3846 System Pre 0.0% 0:01.44 1 58 74 356K 4.58M 2.55M 59.6M
3845 TextEdit 0.0% 0:00.87 1 60 71 36K 4.39M 1.94M 58.4M
3844 QuickTime 0.0% 0:54.21 5 85 99 3.80M 5.65M 6.98M 64.6M
3843 GraphicCon 0.0% 0:05.26 1 46 85 140K 3.39M 960K 57.3M
3842 Carracho X 0.0% 0:11.77 4 106 108 836K 6.90M 4.75M 64.9M
3841 java 0.0% 1:52.42 17 231 250 14.5M 9.32M 20.7M 254M
3837 ColorSync 0.0% 0:15.61 2 77 98 936K 4.82M 3.43M 59.1M
3836 Directory 0.0% 0:01.24 1 75 75 220K 3.73M 1.78M 59.0M
3835 Terminal 0.0% 0:06.22 4 64 113 1.64M 6.61M 5.85M 63.0M
3834 Applet Lau 0.0% 0:14.05 13 198 212 8.31M 8.95M 13.6M 249M
3832 NetInfo Ma 0.0% 0:01.77 1 59 74 160K 4.62M 2.57M 58.8M
3831 Grab 0.0% 0:00.40 1 55 65 0K 3.30M 924K 53.4M
3830 Calibrator 0.0% 0:17.24 1 54 78 120K 3.32M 948K 55.2M
3829 CPU Monito 0.0% 0:14.11 1 60 78 1.17M 3.64M 2.33M 57.6M
3828 AirPort Ad 0.0% 0:01.56 3 82 83 68K 3.51M 1.20M 59.3M
3827 Installer 0.0% 0:01.29 1 62 114 352K 3.50M 1.77M 60.9M
3826 ProcessVie 0.0% 0:29.26 3 63 81 1.04M 4.52M 3.36M 60.0M
3825 DigitalCol 0.0% 0:18.60 1 66 84 1.24M 3.94M 2.50M 57.9M
3824 AirPort Se 0.0% 0:01.41 1 57 87 60K 3.58M 1.41M 60.5M
3823 Disk Utili 0.0% 0:01.85 1 107 112 908K 4.51M 3.19M 59.8M
3822 Keychain A 0.0% 0:14.23 1 54 73 308K 3.31M 1.27M 54.9M
3821 Apple Syst 0.0% 0:02.76 2 69 95 364K 5.46M 3.34M 66.7M
3820 StuffIt Ex 0.0% 0:04.42 1 46 65 68K 3.31M 828K 55.7M
3819 Network Ut 0.0% 1:04.31 1 59 75 820K 3.96M 2.47M 58.5M
3818 Print Cent 0.0% 1:41.88 2 77 72 588K 3.52M 1.54M 55.7M
3817 Key Caps 0.0% 0:00.82 1 54 90 268K 3.29M 1.09M 59.0M
3816 Console 0.0% 0:10.92 4 62 174 2.61M 3.67M 2.80M 60.6M
3815 Disk Copy 0.0% 0:00.78 1 60 69 0K 3.45M 1012K 57.7M
3814 ICQ 0.0% 2:23.10 8 122 132 3.25M 7.13M 7.32M 101M
3795 Internet E 0.0% 14:37.76 19 230 377 2.74M 12.0M 9.39M 280M
3794 Mail 0.0% 0:19.23 6 124 119 2.95M 6.57M 6.91M 65.3M
3596 iTunes 0.0% 41:34.95 9 134 188 2.57M 4.57M 4.06M 68.6M
3062 Project Bu 0.0% 20:14.73 6 143 250 3.98M 6.98M 7.66M 82.7M
1676 hdid 0.0% 0:00.17 1 11 18 56K 248K 124K 1.70M
1578 Finder 0.0% 2:31.02 2 85 1010 4.97M 6.39M 6.46M 94.2M
286 SystemUISe 0.0% 8:44.99 4 131 179 1.12M 4.30M 1.81M 61.5M
285 Dock 0.0% 3:18.71 3 191 153 1.82M 5.86M 3.00M 58.6M
259 pbs 0.0% 0:04.75 1 60 26 444K 396K 772K 18.4M
256 loginwindo 0.0% 13:13.86 8 209 180 1.51M 3.98M 2.13M 66.7M
252 cron 0.0% 0:00.78 1 9 15 24K 240K 92K 1.52M
244 SecuritySe 0.0% 0:02.27 1 45 19 80K 340K 152K 2.34M
233 automount 0.0% 0:00.06 2 11 18 0K 220K 36K 2.14M
230 nfsiod 0.0% 0:00.00 1 9 12 0K 220K 36K 1.25M
228 nfsiod 0.0% 0:00.00 1 9 12 0K 220K 36K 1.25M
227 nfsiod 0.0% 0:00.00 1 9 12 0K 220K 36K 1.25M
215 inetd 0.0% 0:00.00 1 9 13 0K 220K 36K 1.26M
208 coreservic 0.0% 0:25.61 4 108 38 360K 340K 508K 3.70M
202 ntpd 0.0% 0:25.63 1 9 15 28K 248K 100K 1.49M
 
Originally posted by SCrossman
ezra, Why does someone have to prove to you they legitimately own software before helping them out with a problem?
I know of several people who own computers, both Mac and PC that don't work right, when mine does, but I don't ask them for proof of ownership before helping them.
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Well, when you work with a software developer for awhile, you learn to weed out the real problems. In this case, I work for one of the companies to which he named as one of the apps he's launching. Secondly because I'm pretty sure the rest are all either hacked or beta's, and not reliable. You don't install a hacked/Beta OS and software then complain when it doesn't work. Try working tech support sometime, you would go crazy with all the stupid things people do, and they wonder why things don't work. It should be obvious that hacks, and beta software/OS's are not going to run stable. If they want things to run smooth, they have to buy the final release. Otherwise they shouldn't complain.
 
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