Unacceptable
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rezba
simpleutilisateurpuissant
I'm coming back on this thread, because things have changed a lot since we had this discussion.
In may, I did some small conversions to have an idea of the real differences of prices.
The average difference between the euro zone and the US Apple Store was about 8%.
Today, after the new prices of the MWNY, the differences are above 15%, sometimes 20%!
The Japanese AppleStore, which was the most competitive in May, is at the european level now.
These differences are huge ! And they will get higher as long as Euro will be stronger than dollar. Apple should try to be less patriot sometimes. More than half of its market is out of the US!
In may, I did some small conversions to have an idea of the real differences of prices.
The average difference between the euro zone and the US Apple Store was about 8%.
Today, after the new prices of the MWNY, the differences are above 15%, sometimes 20%!
The Japanese AppleStore, which was the most competitive in May, is at the european level now.
These differences are huge ! And they will get higher as long as Euro will be stronger than dollar. Apple should try to be less patriot sometimes. More than half of its market is out of the US!
I know we're not supposed to be on this topic, but I can't help it.
Socialism or varying degrees thereof:
Whereby any state, government or public institution retains majority ownership or provides majority funding to an institution, public or private, for the greater benefit of society. In some industries or economic models, the state alters the normal distribution of wealth by market forces with the collection of taxes in the aim of redistributing said monies for the greater good of society. (Health and Public Education)
Capitalism or varying degrees thereof:
Whereby the notion of the governments function is to provide basic infrastructure for the functioning of the economy and to provide for the defense of the country. Ideally, taxes are collected to fund these efforts and little else. Much greater emphasis is placed on the performance and responsibility of the individual, and monies are, 'permitted' to flow where market forces dictate.
In both instances, one can find exception after exception.
That's an attempt to sum it up. This is coming from someone who grew up in the Middle East. I'm not even going to go there.
Still, there's got to be a way for Apple to bring machines in with the same priveleges the peecee makers get. That or they should try to take some people in Brussels out for a few drinks...
pk
Socialism or varying degrees thereof:
Whereby any state, government or public institution retains majority ownership or provides majority funding to an institution, public or private, for the greater benefit of society. In some industries or economic models, the state alters the normal distribution of wealth by market forces with the collection of taxes in the aim of redistributing said monies for the greater good of society. (Health and Public Education)
Capitalism or varying degrees thereof:
Whereby the notion of the governments function is to provide basic infrastructure for the functioning of the economy and to provide for the defense of the country. Ideally, taxes are collected to fund these efforts and little else. Much greater emphasis is placed on the performance and responsibility of the individual, and monies are, 'permitted' to flow where market forces dictate.
In both instances, one can find exception after exception.
That's an attempt to sum it up. This is coming from someone who grew up in the Middle East. I'm not even going to go there.
Still, there's got to be a way for Apple to bring machines in with the same priveleges the peecee makers get. That or they should try to take some people in Brussels out for a few drinks...
pk
hulkaros
The Incredible...
This one is to correct something that Zenzefiloan posted:
Euro prices across European Union countries while they seem somewhat cheaper than before here in Greece they hide some BIG minuses for us greeks: If someone chooses to buy ANY Mac with the Euro prices then he/she will NOT have Greek language support for the OSes (Classic and/or X) as well as:
-Training support
-Some greek apps for Mac
-Tech support
-Greek updates on any level
-He/she will get his/her Mac almost a month later than the usual delivery time which is 2-4 days...
As you can see, Euro prices in Greece are not THAT good if ANY good at all!
Also, as of 03 Aug 2002 here are some Greek prices (not Euro prices) according to the Apple Reseller here in Greece (Rainbow):
http://www.rainbow.gr/prices/apple.html
-iMac G3/500,128RAM,20GB,CD-ROM = $853 taxes NOT included (cheapest Mac in Greece)
-PowerMac G4/Dual,512RAM,80GB,SuperDrive = $4000 taxes NOT included (one of the most expensive Macs in Greece)
When you ad the taxes on the above prices they become:
-$1007 for iMac
-$4720 for PowerMac
Compare the above prices to the US Apple Store prices:
-iMac G3/600,128RAM,40GB,CD-ROM = $800
-PowerMac G4/Dual,512RAM,80GB,SuperDrive = $3000
Even without taxes on the above prices, the difference is HUGE:
-iMac in US costs $53 less but with HIGHER tech specs
-PowerMac in US costs $1000 less
When you add taxes, the cost goes through the roof! That's why there is a petition for Apple's European pricing scheme here:
www.PetitionOnline.com/EUprices/petition-sign.html?
Go and vote, even you the NONE european Macfellas! After all, it is only some typing and clicking thing, no harm done... Go-go-go, NOW
Euro prices across European Union countries while they seem somewhat cheaper than before here in Greece they hide some BIG minuses for us greeks: If someone chooses to buy ANY Mac with the Euro prices then he/she will NOT have Greek language support for the OSes (Classic and/or X) as well as:
-Training support
-Some greek apps for Mac
-Tech support
-Greek updates on any level
-He/she will get his/her Mac almost a month later than the usual delivery time which is 2-4 days...
As you can see, Euro prices in Greece are not THAT good if ANY good at all!
Also, as of 03 Aug 2002 here are some Greek prices (not Euro prices) according to the Apple Reseller here in Greece (Rainbow):
http://www.rainbow.gr/prices/apple.html
-iMac G3/500,128RAM,20GB,CD-ROM = $853 taxes NOT included (cheapest Mac in Greece)
-PowerMac G4/Dual,512RAM,80GB,SuperDrive = $4000 taxes NOT included (one of the most expensive Macs in Greece)
When you ad the taxes on the above prices they become:
-$1007 for iMac
-$4720 for PowerMac
Compare the above prices to the US Apple Store prices:
-iMac G3/600,128RAM,40GB,CD-ROM = $800
-PowerMac G4/Dual,512RAM,80GB,SuperDrive = $3000
Even without taxes on the above prices, the difference is HUGE:
-iMac in US costs $53 less but with HIGHER tech specs
-PowerMac in US costs $1000 less
When you add taxes, the cost goes through the roof! That's why there is a petition for Apple's European pricing scheme here:
www.PetitionOnline.com/EUprices/petition-sign.html?
Go and vote, even you the NONE european Macfellas! After all, it is only some typing and clicking thing, no harm done... Go-go-go, NOW
Oscar Castillo
Registered
Does Apple even have fabs outside the US? I'd think they would but I never looked into it. That would make things extrememly expensive if they didin't.
In Maryland, there is a 5% Sales tax...that means on the "ultimate" rig, I get to pay almost $250 more for living here...so what do I do? I haul my ass and hour up to a reseller in Dover, Delaware....why, you may ask, do I do that? For a few reasons. One, Delaware sales tax is 0%. That means if something says "$1.00" it means $1, not $1.05. Two, they tend to include monitors for lower prices when you buy the computer. Three, they are nice people. Four, why the hell not? I mean, I like to drive....