Upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3

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KAPPY

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Greetings,

I have a hypethetical question-

I have a G4 desktop with OSX 10.2.8

I just bought a Powerbook G4 that has OSX 10.3.4.

Can I use the 10.3.4 on my desktop so they are both on the same OS?

What problems might I encounter? Will I lose files?

Is it just easier to get an upgrade?

Thanks for any isights, links etc.

KAPPY

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You won't lose any files if you do an archive and install (an option upon booting to the Panther install disk) you will preserve everything in your home directory.

Thanks for the gmail invite, but i've had an account for a while now.
 
cool/

so no problem using the system discs that came with the laptop even though they say "powerbook g4"?

I already backed up my desktop G4 harddrive on a lacie external drive.
 
No you can't use the system restore disc that came with your powerbook to install it on your desktop. The system restore disc has files specific to your powerbook's ROM, and will cause all sorts of problems if you try to simply "restore" your desktop G4 from that disk.


You'll have to buy the set of Panther install CD's.
 
Is there really any reason for you to upgrade the 10.2 computer to 10.3? If not, consider keeping the computers as they are for now. Hypothetically, of course. :)
 
Hypothetically speaking, you could:

1) Attach your FireWire drive to the Powerbook
2) open Disk Utility (in Applications/Utilities)
3) select the volume you have 10.3 installed on
and click on the Restore tab
4) click on the icon representing the 10.3 volume
and drag it into the Source window
5) click and drag the icon representing your FireWire
drive into the Destination window
6) after making sure that the "Erase Destination" box
is NOT checked, click the restore button

After the restore process is finished (if all goes well)
you will have a bootable version of 10.3 installed on
your FireWire drive that you can use for backup.


Now for the FUN part:
With the FW drive attached to the Power Mac,
Boot to the FW drive and Install 10.3 onto the
Power Mac using the Disk Utility Restore.
You will lose any data not backed up from
the 10.2 volume if you do this.
Another option is to just boot the Power Mac
from the FW drive and run 10.3 from it.
 
As Randman said, this would be pirating the software. Beside that I want to add one more thing: really, really, really try to avoid operating system updates such as 10.2 to 10.3. I stopped counting how many posts we had on ppl having weird problems with their system after such a process. And as someone previously posted: 10.2.8 is a very good os and doesn't really need to be updated.
 
Besides, you don't only have the restore disc, you also have an installer disc that came with the PowerBook. Hypothetically speaking.
 
MBHockey said:
No you can't use the system restore disc that came with your powerbook to install it on your desktop. The system restore disc has files specific to your powerbook's ROM, and will cause all sorts of problems if you try to simply "restore" your desktop G4 from that disk.


You'll have to buy the set of Panther install CD's.
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Hypothetically speaking, I could use an ibook system install disk to upgrade a G4 powermac to 10.3 and it (would) work fine. why will he have to buy Install CD's? Surely he has them from when he bought the powerbook?
 
Zammy-Sam said:
As Randman said, this would be pirating the software. Beside that I want to add one more thing: really, really, really try to avoid operating system updates such as 10.2 to 10.3. I stopped counting how many posts we had on ppl having weird problems with their system after such a process. And as someone previously posted: 10.2.8 is a very good os and doesn't really need to be updated.
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No, it would not be pirating the software - it would be breaking the EULA (or whatever Apple calls it) - Big Difference.
 
And how would it be different? If you agree to the terms specified by the company, then violate it and use the software for something not covered, or specifically prohibited, by the eula, it's piracy, plain and simple.
 
Piracy is the unathorized use of software as well as making illegal copies (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=piracy). So you would be pirating the software and violating the EULA at the same time -- doubly whammy. Both of those offenses are illegal in all US states and punishable both by hefty fine and jailtime, depending on how bad the piracy/violation is.

Support Apple. Don't steal from them. If you want your G4 to be running Panther, go buy a copy -- it's extremely reasonably priced. They're one of the few companies that don't nickel-and-dime their userbase to death.

And, I will support those in this thread that vote against an upgrade of 10.2 to 10.3. I would say wipe that hard drive clean and install 10.3 fresh on there, then restore what you need from backup (you DO have a backup, right?). Too many people have problems and end up with an unstable system trying to update 10.2 to 10.3.
 
If Panther comes pre-installed on your computer, they do not also give you a retail package to install the OS -- that is what the system restore disc is for.

Go ahead and try using an iBook system disc to restore a desktop, you will run into problems.
 
Lol - i guess you got me there.

(My copy of Panther is the NFR version, so i can install it on any/all
of the Mac's i own without violating any laws or agreements.)


ElDiabloConCaca said:
Piracy is the unathorized use of software as well as making illegal copies (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=piracy). So you would be pirating the software and violating the EULA at the same time -- doubly whammy. Both of those offenses are illegal in all US states and punishable both by hefty fine and jailtime, depending on how bad the piracy/violation is.

Support Apple. Don't steal from them. If you want your G4 to be running Panther, go buy a copy -- it's extremely reasonably priced. They're one of the few companies that don't nickel-and-dime their userbase to death.

And, I will support those in this thread that vote against an upgrade of 10.2 to 10.3. I would say wipe that hard drive clean and install 10.3 fresh on there, then restore what you need from backup (you DO have a backup, right?). Too many people have problems and end up with an unstable system trying to update 10.2 to 10.3.
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Heh... must be nice -- I'll bet it didn't cost you $129, either, right?! ;)

I'm one of those guys on the 10-year college plan, so I still get educational discounts at 27. It's wonderful. I've got Office 2003 and Windows XP Pro for $12 a piece, and Visual Studio .NET 2003 for $25. The good thing is, upon graduation, these educational licenses turn into perpetual licenses (the same thing you'd get if you bought the software outright) and will be eligible for all the discounted upgrades. Both Panther and Jaguar cost me $79 each. Not too bad.

God, sometimes I never want to be done with school... ;)
 
I had an upgraded Powermac G4 1 Ghz (originally 400 Mhz) with a nVidia GeForce2MX card with 10.2.8 that ran perfectly. The GeForce2MX card was upgraded too; it originally was an ATI Rage. I decided to install 10.3 on it and I noticed problems with the display. It would not display resolutions higher than 1024x768(?). I was able to display 1200x(?) on my Apple studio disiplay 17" on 10.2.8. Also, the computer didn't respond smoothly. I got fed up so I downgraded it back to 10.2.8 and it works just as nice as it did before.

I don't know which Powermac you have, but my problems could be the result of the upgraded CPU, video card, and/or Quartz in OS X. (I believe my video card was a flashed PC card - bought from eBay).

I'm happy with it now; I just miss some of the features from panther. but I think it has plenty of life in it ...
 
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