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Sorry I tried to make it pretty for you, oh well. I do think OS X has a ways to go in this area but it is still a young and developing OS. You're right that XP gives you more sort options but one thing I don't like about Windows is the drive letter designation that OS X doesn't use. I also know...

Because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean I being stubborn or arguing only for the sake of it. There are very detailed, well written, and thought out arguments describing why the user interface works so well in the Mac OS vs. Windows. If you don't wish to believe them that is your...

I don't really understand how what you've shown is any better than this:

Okay I asked myself... and I still hate them. The Finder window toolbar serves a different purpose than the one in Windows and I find that I almost never use it anyway. Maybe in your own little world of users you can find people who like the Windows toolbars but I'll bet you that the vast...

Very well put. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned how much they like having a separate toolbar at the top of every bloody window within an application. This is one of the things about Windows, among many, that I have always hated. As you point out it is also thought badly of by real user...

The things wrong with XP are the same things that have always been wrong with Windoze. As an operating system it has way too much control and reminds you way too often that you are merely a user of a Microsoft product. The wizards and reminders drive me absolutely crazy. One of the problems that...

I'm running it on a Dual GB Wind Tunnel with the ATI 9000 Pro and it is nearly as fast as OS 9. I don't bench mark against XP. Of course the fact that OS X is a complete rebuild has something to do with the speed. There is an incredible amount of work to do in order to couple the Unix core and...

What is wrong with you? Don't you have any idea that OS X is a complete rebuild of the system from the ground up? Not so XP, it's merely an update to Windows 2K. They have done a tremendous amount of work on OS X since it was released and they will continue to so in future versions. MDA

If it takes Photoshop that long to launch on your computer you may want to reinstall it. It takes about 7 seconds on my Dual GB with 512 of RAM. How, may I ask, are you surfing the web? Using a cable modem on my Mac web browsing is almost instantaneous. Why in god's name did you pay...

Frankly who cares who designed it or how good it looks? After you boot it up it's still running Windows and that's a step down from the Mac OS. MDA

Navigate to the application folder and control click on the Mail application, select Show Package Contents from the contextual menu. Open the Contents folder and check the Date Modified in list view on the files within. You should discover that it was indeed updated. MDA

Access is a horrible excuse for a database program. FileMaker Pro blows it out of the water. It is one of the most frustrating pieces of junk I've ever used. MDA

Originally posted by BuddahBobb "i dont mean to sound like an asshole or someone who is "above" all this, but IMHO windows and mac os have been floating towards each other, both copying each other etc getting more and more similar with each new OS" It is true that Windows and the Mac OS...

I'm sure it must be a very self satisfied feeling to believe you are above the OS wars and superior because of it. If however your a part of the 5% and dwindling market share Mac community it isn't that easy to ignore. If you watch department after department at your business be forced to adopt...

Originally posted by pezagent "Well, here we go with the Fisher-Price GUI. What's wrong with the Fisher-Price GUI? Apple's Aqua is the GUI that gives you giant icons that tell you nothing about the documents they represent and the dock is a joke. The quartz rendering also looks like crap."...

For me and a lot of other people Macs ARE more productive. If that's not true for you that's great. I've used XP and to me it's just Windows with a new Fisher-Price GUI. Your "side by side" tests mean nothing to me, I'm sure there are things you can do in XP to bring the system down. You might...

You have obviously never been in an environment that is hostile towards Mac users on a daily basis like I have. I work in an MIS department as the only Mac support person and it isn't easy. Don't for a second doubt that many Windows users think that Mac users are idiots. MDA

For me it doesn't really matter how fast XP is because that isn't the point. Windows has always been behind the Mac OS because it simply doesn't allow you to be as productive. The Mac OS was designed by people who understood the end user experience. Windows... well Windows was backwards...

Here is Apple's article on the icon problem: http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/wa/viewDocument?dialogID=132216328&sherlock=ON&extKCID=106857 MDA

I've always hated the fact the Windoze applications take over the whole screen too. Funny to see someone from the darkside that actually likes it. MDA