Originally posted by BuddahBobb
"i dont mean to sound like an asshole or someone who is "above" all this, but IMHO windows and mac os have been floating towards each other, both copying each other etc getting more and more similar with each new OS"
It is true that Windows and the Mac OS have grown more similar but the remaining differences are what keep me using a Mac.
"do i know that the market for macs is a dwindling one? yes it is... but does that make it an excuse to go around throwing insults at people who use a different OS? i guess thats up to you, i dont see the need"
I don't think any more insults have been thrown your way than have been thrown at the Mac users on this forum.
"yes i know service bureaus use mac formatted files, but in all honesty with adobe's cross platform capabilties lessen that gap a bit... the only file format that i know of that isnt nicely cross platform, that i output in is quark. but even with quark files i have never had a problem going back and forth and opening on either machine. personally i use PDFs now as my final output because i use InDesign more often than not, and again pdf's are very much cross platforms, i have not had a problem in a long time outputting from either, but since ive used both i must be an idiot because i touched the devil's machine!"
I think you miss the point a bit. It isn't that service bureaus so much use Mac formatted files as it is that PC files cause service bureaus far more problems than Mac files. Partly because of font issues and partly because PC's don't use ColorSync technology. One guy I talked to who ran a service bureau told me that they have 10 times the problem with PC files than they do with Mac files. At one time they charged PC users extra to work with their files. Of course to someone with your knowledge I'm sure this is all obvious information.
"on the other hand, why is the mac community dwindling? most answers will be... well because bill gates is evil, he is building an evil empire, he is monopolizing blah blah"
It's partly because of IT managers who simply can't deal with the fact that some people prefer Mac's. They feel that everyone has to be on the same platform, that being Windows.
"when the fact of the matter is, the apple OS can only be used on a computer from a specific manufacturer (apple) that is more expensive, so it doesnt leave very many options for the OS to spread, because in a time of a tightened economy and budget cuts in most corporations and educational facilities it is more beneficial for the pocketbook to buy pc's and if apple's os doesnt run on anything but their own equipment, and they cant sell their equipment at a cheaper rate, then that doesnt leave them in very good condition"
I'm willing to pay more to own a Mac. The fact that the OS and the hardware are assembled by them tends to make them be more reliable and last a little longer. Mac's also tend to actually cost less in the long run to support. If you don't believe me look it up.
MDA
"i dont mean to sound like an asshole or someone who is "above" all this, but IMHO windows and mac os have been floating towards each other, both copying each other etc getting more and more similar with each new OS"
It is true that Windows and the Mac OS have grown more similar but the remaining differences are what keep me using a Mac.
"do i know that the market for macs is a dwindling one? yes it is... but does that make it an excuse to go around throwing insults at people who use a different OS? i guess thats up to you, i dont see the need"
I don't think any more insults have been thrown your way than have been thrown at the Mac users on this forum.
"yes i know service bureaus use mac formatted files, but in all honesty with adobe's cross platform capabilties lessen that gap a bit... the only file format that i know of that isnt nicely cross platform, that i output in is quark. but even with quark files i have never had a problem going back and forth and opening on either machine. personally i use PDFs now as my final output because i use InDesign more often than not, and again pdf's are very much cross platforms, i have not had a problem in a long time outputting from either, but since ive used both i must be an idiot because i touched the devil's machine!"
I think you miss the point a bit. It isn't that service bureaus so much use Mac formatted files as it is that PC files cause service bureaus far more problems than Mac files. Partly because of font issues and partly because PC's don't use ColorSync technology. One guy I talked to who ran a service bureau told me that they have 10 times the problem with PC files than they do with Mac files. At one time they charged PC users extra to work with their files. Of course to someone with your knowledge I'm sure this is all obvious information.
"on the other hand, why is the mac community dwindling? most answers will be... well because bill gates is evil, he is building an evil empire, he is monopolizing blah blah"
It's partly because of IT managers who simply can't deal with the fact that some people prefer Mac's. They feel that everyone has to be on the same platform, that being Windows.
"when the fact of the matter is, the apple OS can only be used on a computer from a specific manufacturer (apple) that is more expensive, so it doesnt leave very many options for the OS to spread, because in a time of a tightened economy and budget cuts in most corporations and educational facilities it is more beneficial for the pocketbook to buy pc's and if apple's os doesnt run on anything but their own equipment, and they cant sell their equipment at a cheaper rate, then that doesnt leave them in very good condition"
I'm willing to pay more to own a Mac. The fact that the OS and the hardware are assembled by them tends to make them be more reliable and last a little longer. Mac's also tend to actually cost less in the long run to support. If you don't believe me look it up.
MDA
