Apple buying SUN

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callieX

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There was an article on http://www.osopinion.com about the future of Sun Microsystems. The interesting thing was a post to that article that went as follows:

Re: Is Sun's Vision Clear? Sun and Apple.

With Sun's stock prices down to around $3 per share and the IT market in general suffering, I think that Apple should be seriously considering purchasing Sun.
Apple is now the largest desktop Unix company and they have close relations with Sun. Apple has reignited their enterprise services philosophy with the Xserve and Mac OS X Server and they could use the additional technologies of Sun enterprise. Apple is in good financial status with $6 Billion in cash sitting in the bank and is one of the few computer companies who has remained profitable in the last 2 years.
Anyone Have a thought

calliex
 
Sometimes I think that with all of the iApps that Apple is releasing, the corporate acquisitions, and such, they are doing the exact same thing that Microsoft is doing to monopolize the computer market.

But then I remember that Apple doesn't produce game consoles, own cable channels, publish an e-magazine, or implement DRM measures on their hardware/software.

:p

This was a pointless post on my part, I know. Carry on.

:D
 
Sun's stock is down all the way to $2.57 now, but that still means that they're worth $8,057,990,850; almost 30% more than Apple is.
 
I got a good idea. How about Apple take a portion of that 6.25 billion dollars and send all their customers a two button mouse!

:D
 
just buy an ice mouse form macally...
it's about 20-30 dollars cheeper then appls


anyways. If apple took over SUN we could also have Java along with UNIX in our operating system.


that would be REALLY nice ;)
 
Originally posted by JetosX
just buy an ice mouse form macally...
it's about 20-30 dollars cheeper then appls


anyways. If apple took over SUN we could also have Java along with UNIX in our operating system.


that would be REALLY nice ;)
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I'll assume the "winking smiley" meant you were kidding, seeing as how we *DO* have JAVA. Anyway, along with what 90X Double Side mentioned, I always saw SUN as being bigger than Apple, and even if they were the same size Apple simply isn't big enough or having enough capital to justify such a purchase. Maybe far into the future, if SUN really starts to die or something... obviously Apple is getting stronger... but still, if it's gonna happen it's a loooong way off.
 
Originally posted by sheepguy42
and even if they were the same size Apple simply isn't big enough or having enough capital to justify such a purchase.
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especialy with the talk of layoffs in the near future...
 
Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers :(
 
Originally posted by 90X Double Side
Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers :(
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1.3.1 is not "incredibly old", it's commonly used. Apple's impementation of the jvm is amoung the best.

A 1.4 implemetation will be out soon but I don't realy miss it yet.
 
If you look at the vast majority of dev tools, they are still based on 1.3. Some environments still even use 1.2. Although upgrading the JVM is easy and normally there shouldn't be issues running under a new JRE.

I just wanted to point out that it isn't a hindrance running 1.3.1 for most Java devs. I can still run TomCat, develop JSP and Servlets with no problems. I can even roll out under JVM 1.4 environment. Currently I'm developing using WebMethods under OS X and it isn't even supported by WebMethods. The beauty of Java, all I needed to do was tweek some config files and voila it worked. By the way the window version comes with 1.2 as part of the installer. So there you go if you think 1.3.1 is old.

If you look at the point release information, your often see the differences (excl 1.1 -> 1.2 that's more like OSX 10.1 -> 10.2 diffs) are small, performance related or apply to very specialised areas.

John.
 
In my particular industry Sun is under pressure because of Linux replacing it.

What would apple want with another UNIX? It would be the hardware that they are after, but they have just brought out the X-Server, which is selling very well.

I am not sure that it would be a great idea - too much market overlap in my opinion. However stranger things have happened.

Would Sun want Apple taking over anyway, with Jobs being on serveral 'worst boards of directors'?

;)
 
Originally posted by 90X Double Side
Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers :(
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Hmmm...I'll try to be polite here....but it is tough. You don't really know what you're talking about, do you?

Java 1.3.1 is not "incredibly" old. And it is still widely used.

Unlike many people that might frequent these boards, not everyone MUST update every version of something the moment it comes out. Working in a coporation as I do, we move much more slowly than that (with good reason I might add). Upgrading to new versions of software (especially Java, on which a lot of our code is built), is a SERIOUS move that may have have SERIOUS ramifications (sometimes negative).
 
how about SUN buying Apple
(thats not possible right now, i know)

but thats cool!

SUN is better, have u ever tried their products.

its like ROCK SOLID!

the only thing they are missing are the UI & Graphics concepts of apple. :D
 
The POSSIBILITY is there, definitely. Even Dell has mentioned that enterprise business is the way to go to ensure that the company remain profitable.

Apple might be seriously eyeing that share of the pie. Secured servers, reliable and cost effectiveness is an edge is some way. Many cmpanies are tired with dealing with viruses on the Win platform. But can Win users really move out of the platform and rely on Apple?

Enterprise solutions.... can Apple deliver something rock solid and at the same time, maintain their strong foot hold in the creative industry? We will see... buy Sun. They rock! Solaris X server! LOL...
 
I have been thinking that a closer relationship with Sun would be great. Sun is the ultimate good guy as far as I am concerned, if for no other reason than opensourse stuff that comes from them. No, I don't think that Apple should buy them out, but investing in some of their stock and maybe collaborating on some things wouldn't hurt. Not on hardware, just on philosphy. They've got Spark which is cool but suffers even more megahertz myth than poor G4.
 
It is hard to see if there is anything Apple could really gain from a purchase of Sun. Apple already has access to most if not all of Sun's technologies. It would be hard to justify spending billions of dollars if it only broadens their position very slightly.
 
Wasn't it just a (relatively) short time ago that plenty more folks talked about Sun buying Apple?

There's no need to combine these two companies. Recent history suggests that combinations of corporate 'cultures' (or lack thereof) can make two imperfectly decent companies into one perfect disaster.

Let Sun do what it does best, and let Apple do what it does best. If there isn't an overwhelming need for a merger/acquisition, then don't mess.

eshine+eshine-
 
Hi all,

Apple buying sun, don't really think so yet,
but there is another Unix workstation vendor,
that apple could look at, that is sgi (silicon
graphic). Irix (the sgi version of UNIX) was
known as the most user friendly version of UNIX
that was available. Apple seems to be moving
into the markets that sgi once dominated.

Also sgi makes cool looking machines.

Benjamin
 
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