Has anyone ever had iTunes start by itself?
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DeltaMac
Tech
There's no way, AFAIK, for any app to start _while_ you are sleeping.
So, iTunes is running before you put it sleep, or, something triggers iTunes on wakeup, like an iPod left plugged in, or maybe an Apple TV?
Do you log out before sleeping, or simply go to sleep while still logged in?
If you log out, then is iTunes Helper in your Login Items? Check your Accounts/Login Items to make sure.
So, iTunes is running before you put it sleep, or, something triggers iTunes on wakeup, like an iPod left plugged in, or maybe an Apple TV?
Do you log out before sleeping, or simply go to sleep while still logged in?
If you log out, then is iTunes Helper in your Login Items? Check your Accounts/Login Items to make sure.
That’s what I figured, it starts on wake. The system console log is of no help, I can see the wake up and the reason for it but no indication of anything to do with iTunes. No iPod, no Apple TV, I unplugged all non essential USB devices.
I lock the screen because my cat loves to walk on the keyboard but don’t log out. Eventually the machine will sleep. It doesn't matter if I lock the screen or not though, just walking away and letting the machine go to sleep yields the same result.
I removed iTunes Helper, one of the first things I did.
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DeltaMac
Tech
How about a third-party iTunes helper utility, such as a Dashboard widget, or something else that provides iTunes notification?
Perhaps Growl?
Or, something else like Application Enhancer, or another haxie that could have a setting that calls iTunes (thus launching iTunes). Or, something that normally sits in your Menubar?
These are just memory joggers for possibilities. Is any of this helping?
Perhaps Growl?
Or, something else like Application Enhancer, or another haxie that could have a setting that calls iTunes (thus launching iTunes). Or, something that normally sits in your Menubar?
These are just memory joggers for possibilities. Is any of this helping?
VirtualTracy
Thunderbirds are GO!
There are scripts and alarm clock apps that can be configured to start iTunes ...
Here’s more:
I had removed iTunes Helper from the “log-in” items on my primary account (and forgotten all about it). So today I look again and it’s back!
So I created a new folder within /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources (“Removed_iTunesHelper”
, put iTunes Helper in there and logged out. It’s back again, in my log-in items, persistent little bugger! So I zipped it up, renamed the zip and deleted the original. So it can’t come back. But… you’ll never guess, iTunes turned itself into a Start Up item all by itself.
That’s where I am right now, I removed it from the login items and logged out again but I think it’s still starting up after sleep, I’m not quite sure yet.
Once when I was poking around in iTunes prefs (trying to solve this problem) I found under Advanced, this:
So I clicked it, fully expecting the button to turn into “Unset”. Nope, same button.
So I searched around in the iTunes prefs file to try and find a pref to turn this off, can’t find it. Does anyone have a clue on how to undo that “Set”?
I had removed iTunes Helper from the “log-in” items on my primary account (and forgotten all about it). So today I look again and it’s back!
So I created a new folder within /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources (“Removed_iTunesHelper”
, put iTunes Helper in there and logged out. It’s back again, in my log-in items, persistent little bugger! So I zipped it up, renamed the zip and deleted the original. So it can’t come back. But… you’ll never guess, iTunes turned itself into a Start Up item all by itself.That’s where I am right now, I removed it from the login items and logged out again but I think it’s still starting up after sleep, I’m not quite sure yet.
Once when I was poking around in iTunes prefs (trying to solve this problem) I found under Advanced, this:
So I clicked it, fully expecting the button to turn into “Unset”. Nope, same button.
So I searched around in the iTunes prefs file to try and find a pref to turn this off, can’t find it. Does anyone have a clue on how to undo that “Set”?
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DeltaMac
Tech
Your system logs should tell you the cause. Any launching item should show up. You should open your console, then quit iTunes. Put your Mac to sleep. Wake it up as you would normally do. Check that console again for actions AFTER the wakeup. Don't launch anything else, just watch the console window. Anything relevant to iTunes (even if iTunes is not mentioned specifically?)
Audio internet playback is not changing your iTunes to be a startup.
Also, doesn't explain why simply waking up from sleep should cause iTunes to launch. Waking up shouldn't touch your login items. Are you sure that you don't log out, and then sleep?
Does the same thing happen if you log out, then log in as a different user?
I suspect some app OTHER than iTunes, and there's a variety of possibilities. Have you checked possible settings in your third-party add-ons, as I suggested?
Audio internet playback is not changing your iTunes to be a startup.
Also, doesn't explain why simply waking up from sleep should cause iTunes to launch. Waking up shouldn't touch your login items. Are you sure that you don't log out, and then sleep?
Does the same thing happen if you log out, then log in as a different user?
I suspect some app OTHER than iTunes, and there's a variety of possibilities. Have you checked possible settings in your third-party add-ons, as I suggested?
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Already had the system log:
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: System Sleep
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::restartShutdownWL this is a wake from sleep
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: System Wake
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: Wake event 0020
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 31 built-in: handleSelfIDInt - received quads == 0. issuing bus reset
May 18 13:57:44 mymachine kernel[0]: USB caused wake event (EHCI)
May 18 13:57:44 mymachine kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Active: "mpaka" - 001a70d7e5e4 - chan 1
May 18 13:57:45 mymachine lookupd[1466]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Sun May 18 13:57:45 2008
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine launchd: Server 0 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[1466]: exited abnormally: Hangup
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine configd[79]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine lookupd[1468]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Sun May 18 13:57:47 2008
And I'm not logging out.
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: System Sleep
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::restartShutdownWL this is a wake from sleep
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: System Wake
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: Wake event 0020
May 18 13:57:43 mymachine kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 31 built-in: handleSelfIDInt - received quads == 0. issuing bus reset
May 18 13:57:44 mymachine kernel[0]: USB caused wake event (EHCI)
May 18 13:57:44 mymachine kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Active: "mpaka" - 001a70d7e5e4 - chan 1
May 18 13:57:45 mymachine lookupd[1466]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Sun May 18 13:57:45 2008
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine launchd: Server 0 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[1466]: exited abnormally: Hangup
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine configd[79]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
May 18 13:57:47 mymachine lookupd[1468]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Sun May 18 13:57:47 2008
And I'm not logging out.
I’ve been down that road. I’m using the same apps I’ve been using long before the problem occurred (with one exception noted below). I’ve quit every “visible” app and it still happens, doesn’t even take sleep/waking up to cause it. It’s starting by itself as I type this, and the system log is blank after a “clear” in console.
I asked tech support at OnmiGroup about this issue because I recently started using OmniFocus and had this problem, they told me that as far as they know there’s no way to determine from the system log what’s causing this.
VirtualTracy
Thunderbirds are GO!
simbalala, have you tried rebooting while disconnected from the internet, then letting your Mac go to sleep in order to observe whether or not this issue still persists?
DeltaMac
Tech
Did you have this happening with iTunes BEFORE you started using OmniFocus?
If not, is there any other changes to new apps recently? If OmniFocus is it, and there is no other results except iTunes basically always open, is that still an important issue, now that you know it is caused by OmniFocus?
(sorry for the really complex sentence )
If not, is there any other changes to new apps recently? If OmniFocus is it, and there is no other results except iTunes basically always open, is that still an important issue, now that you know it is caused by OmniFocus?
(sorry for the really complex sentence
)The story I didn’t tell because it would make the question just too complex.
I recently bought a Tripp Lite active USB extension cable.
It works very well in doing what I needed it to do but it has a quirk. It periodically sends a signal back to the computer which is enough to wake it from sleep, like a mouse click. So I searched around to see if I could find something to get around this and I found Narcolepsy which maybe helps, maybe not. So I’ve had it running/not running for a while.
Anyways, it has a feature to keep the system awake if iTunes is running. The developer gives examples in the script within the package on how to alter/disable/extend the script to tailor it to more apps. The problem is that it was itself querying iTunes and making iTunes start.
I commented out the section related to iTunes and that problem is gone. Now I still have to figure out how to handle the traffic from the Tripp Lite cable because Narcolepsy does not handle the problem completely, it only helps a little.
I might just buy a regular 16’ USB extension cable and stick a hub on the end. That’s basically what the Tripp Lite is anyway.
Edit: Delta Mac, I had already ruled out OmniFocus by just not running it, the iTunes issue was still there.
I recently bought a Tripp Lite active USB extension cable.
It works very well in doing what I needed it to do but it has a quirk. It periodically sends a signal back to the computer which is enough to wake it from sleep, like a mouse click. So I searched around to see if I could find something to get around this and I found Narcolepsy which maybe helps, maybe not. So I’ve had it running/not running for a while.
Anyways, it has a feature to keep the system awake if iTunes is running. The developer gives examples in the script within the package on how to alter/disable/extend the script to tailor it to more apps. The problem is that it was itself querying iTunes and making iTunes start.
I commented out the section related to iTunes and that problem is gone. Now I still have to figure out how to handle the traffic from the Tripp Lite cable because Narcolepsy does not handle the problem completely, it only helps a little.
I might just buy a regular 16’ USB extension cable and stick a hub on the end. That’s basically what the Tripp Lite is anyway.
Edit: Delta Mac, I had already ruled out OmniFocus by just not running it, the iTunes issue was still there.
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Kind of a boxy connector, not too big. Its a very nice, high quality cable, cost $16 + shipping from ANT Online (via Amazon).
I just tried the span with my little hub (6 ft cable) and a 6 foot extension that I had already (12 ft is not quite enough) but I have the same problem. The hub plugged into the back of my Cinema display via its 6 ft cable causes no problem but add the extra 6 ft and Im back to square one.
Ive got an ancient hub downstairs, probably USB 1 but its only for a printer. I wonder if I can find a power supply for it.
Hey! I got it!!
Its a PowerBook G4 with a 20 Cinema display attached. I rearranged the cables so my keyboard and trackpad are plugged into the display (2 port hub) the trackpad:
(That BlueTooth keyboard is no longer in use)
was already plugged into the keyboard and the mouse was already plugged into the Display. Ive got a BlueTooth mouse but I figured why pay for batteries when its in front of the display anyway.
That opened up a USB port on the PowerBook and I plugged the Tripp Lite into that. The problem is gone!!
I can even plug the hub into the Tripp Lite without any problems. So thats 22 ft.
Its a PowerBook G4 with a 20 Cinema display attached. I rearranged the cables so my keyboard and trackpad are plugged into the display (2 port hub) the trackpad:
(That BlueTooth keyboard is no longer in use)
was already plugged into the keyboard and the mouse was already plugged into the Display. Ive got a BlueTooth mouse but I figured why pay for batteries when its in front of the display anyway.
That opened up a USB port on the PowerBook and I plugged the Tripp Lite into that. The problem is gone!!
I can even plug the hub into the Tripp Lite without any problems. So thats 22 ft.
Satcomer
In Geostationary Orbit
Just after it starts up immediately launch the application in the folder /Applications/Utilities/Console and this will show the logs in OS X this way you might be able to trace down what is waking up your Mac.