New PowerMac G5's!!!!

Isn't there a new processor from Freescale/Motorola, the e600 or e700 which could be a good candidate for future PowerBooks?

Delivering Higher Performance: The e600 and e700 Cores and Platforms
The next planned step in Freescale’s performance roadmap is the e600 core and corresponding e600 platform. An enhanced version of the high-performance G4 core used in the award-winning, high-performance MPC74xx family of PowerPC host processors, the e600 core is planned to scale beyond 2 GHz and to support chip multiprocessing (CMP) while maintaining full compatibility with the PowerPC instruction set architecture. Like its G4 predecessor, the superscalar e600 core is designed to issue four instructions per clock cycle (three instructions plus one branch) into eleven independent execution units, and to include a full 128-bit implementation of Freescale's advanced AltiVec Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD) vector processing technology.

Freescale Semiconductor also disclosed today at SNDF its plans to develop the next-generation 32/64-bit e700 PowerPC core and corresponding e700 platform. Processor products engineered around Freescale’s forthcoming e700 SoC platform are planned to be capable of running both 32-bit and 64-bit software and scaling to 3 GHz and beyond in next-generation process technologies.
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kendall said:
i may be wrong but i believe $1999 was the price of the previous 1.8GHz DP that is NOW crippled (no pci-X, only 4gb ram) for the oh so lovely price of $1999. so no my friend, IT IS NOT THE SAME and you are now paying MORE for LESS.

can i refill your glass of koolaid? :D
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Don't think so.
The 1.6 was $2499
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/06/09/apple/
go to "Compared to older models" on that page.

So, now you have the same case/mobo/ram/etc. as the previous config, but you get dual 1.8s instead of a single 1.6 for $200.00 more than previous.

You can have your koolaid back.
 
Captain Code said:
Yeah, doh. So 1799 for the 1.6 before, now 1999 for the dual 1.8
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I don't think that is too impressive, though. Those processors are probably far cheaper to produce than the G4s were in the beginning, and the rest of the specs are the same as the old 1.6 GHz except from the 8x SuperDrive which didn't cost Apple anything.

If you compare the new dual 2.0 GHz to the old dual 1.8 GHz, you'll see that the only change is the 10% faster processors and the SuperDrive. Is that even worth the extra $100?
 
If you compare the new dual 2.0 GHz to the old dual 1.8 GHz, you'll see that the only change is the 10% faster processors and the SuperDrive. Is that even worth the extra $100?
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If you consider the 90nm construction and thus less heat and more silence for the fans, the $100 relativize more
 
apple-x.net posted whole pictures of Cooling system of new G5.
The website seems to be down now.

Those pictures what they posted are looked like a guide line for internal purpose.

Hmm.. Steve might be upset. We know he is checking all the rumor web sites.
 

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Pengu said:
This actually means, that a "previous" dual 1.8 is "better" than a current one? More memory. pci-x. they didnt add anything.
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Actually you have to look at as for an extra $200 they're giving you a dual 1.8Ghz vs saving $200 and just having a single 1.6GHz. Which you can probably only get from a reseller now anyway if they still have them.
That's a very generous offering considering the CPU.
 
Cat said:
Isn't there a new processor from Freescale/Motorola, the e600 or e700 which could be a good candidate for future PowerBooks?
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Cat,

I took that to be a press release by Motorola to try to avoid looking like inept nincompoops. They're apparently saying that this other company is developing their (Moto's) next gen chip that _someday_ will get to 3 GHz. Wow. When? 2012? I'm not impressed.

Doug
 
Well, Freescale = Motorola ("wholly owned subsidiary"), so it's not some other company. Since the announcement/roadmap, the rumour mill has been churning happily along.

While it is completly unclear if or when Apple will use these processors (or better:cores), still they could use them, either in the *Books or the e/iMac. Motorola designs for the embedded market: small space, small cooling. We have just heard Apple say that a G5 PowerBook and iMac are a LONG way off, looking a the pictures of the new liquid cooling system, there is absolutely no way that it would fit in to such small enclosures. Hence, it is increasingly probably that Apple will have to use somthing else that the G5. IBM could make a G3 + AltiVec (Mojave) if they wanted, but Motorola/Freescale is already set to produce them.
Which brings us to the Freescale e600/e700 System-on-a-Chip architecture.

Ever since a copy of Motorola's roadmap for its new Freescale Semiconductor spin-off was uncovered by XLR8YourMac, speculation has been running rampant about the possibility of the e600/e700 all-in-one (CPU, system controller, PCI, USB, Firewire, etc) chips being used in future low-end, compact Macs such as the rumored headless "iMac Mini."

The advantages of System-on-a-Chip architectures are numerous and include lower overall system cost, improved performance, and reduced development time/cost for computer makers (in this case Apple). Freescale's implementation which uses an enhanced PowerPC 745x core (in the e600) or Motorola 32/64-bit Book E "G5" core (e700) does seem promising -- and sources at Freescale report they've been in talks with Apple ever since the spin-off announcement about ways the two parties could work together to redeem Motorola's PowerPC technology for the Mac.
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That's what the rumour mill is saying. The point simply is: where will the *Books and the iMac go next for their processors? The G5 can't be done and overclocking older cores hits a limit somewhere. How long can they keep it up? They will need a new processor sooner or later. Well, Motorola will produce them sooner or later.
 
Found from http://www.hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2004-06-12#2279

Apple-X.net has been able to get some photos from the watercooling/liquid cooling system (LCS) found in the new PM G5 Dual 2.5GHz. The most impressive one is below.

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This is a quite impressive system, as well as its complexity and its compactness. It also stop the floating around criticisms arguing that it was only a heat-pipe-based cooling device.
The liquid circulating inside the LCS is made of 80% water supplemented with corrosion inhibitors, antifreeze, and bacterial growth preventatives.
Can not wait to test if this device is really decreasing the overall noise of the computer.


Awesome!!! It does have pump?
 
I also wonder about the noise of the new 2.0 GHz machine... Is it much quieter than the old 2.0 GHz one? Sure, it hasn't got the liquid cooling, but the 90nm chip should require less fan activity, or shouldn't it?
 
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