Opinions: Drugs

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But, if a friend is putting you in a position where you could be arrested then you have a good reason to break off that relasionship.
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someone doing something you don't approve of and consider a risk and them doing it around you are 2 different things. of course no one should be jepordized by someone else's actions. that is the very reasoning behind our zero tolerance of warez and help in obtaining it here on this site. but that doesn't mean we only accept members that have never used warez.
 
Friendships, warez... "opinions: drugs" is a topipc that can bring you very far from its epicentre :rolleyes:
 
toast: I think it was the ricky/wdw incident that was the thread-splitting catalyst. That incient will go down in forum history. We'll never be the same after that... lol.

::alien:: :D
 
All things in moderation... and only after you body is done growing.

I think the worst mistake I ever made was to pick up the habbit of smoking clove cigarettes when I was still a teenager. I swear I still have memory loss sorts of brain damage to this day.

While you are still a teen learn to love the feeling of your body chemistry changing. Don't mess with it by introducing other chemicals to the mix.
 
Originally posted by Ricky
The transcript is attached. :)

-EDIT- Figured out that it downloads the attachment as "attachment.php." Just change "php" on the end of the file name to "txt" to open the file.

Also, I would like to add that I have no intention of modifying anything in this thread, save for the normal site policies (swears and such). I feel that it's important that people voice their opinions on these matters.
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Hmmm... We now we know who's moderatin' this thing.

Rickey, I'm glad i don't know you in real life. Obviously that alcolhol related "abuse" did a number on you because you sure are being an a$$!

Lighten up!
 
Originally posted by toast
I just read some people are against caffeine... hey, guys, I'm awake from 6:00AM to 2:00AM, I *need* caffeine ! ;)

My two cents about the Ricky/wdw_ bullfight: don't you both feel stupid ? How old are you ?
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Uh... but why do you "*need*" to be awake from 6am to 2am in the first place? Sounds like a time managment problem... ;)

IMHO any time you use the word "need" in connection with any drug, that's when you have a problem. I smoked cigarettes for a couple of years, but quit the instant I felt like I "needed" one. I used to drink almost 5 cups of coffee a day, but have since cut back to either one cup of decaf or 1/2 decaf. I currently drink a wine/ beer, but not to the extent that I "need" it.

Again I say... All things in moderation... including your indignation about what other people do. Live free or die. Live and let live. Do what you want to do and don't friggin harass other folks who make differnt choices.
 
Originally posted by Darkshadow
Hmm, here's one for you then, Ed. I'm 25, and I haven't ever done any illegal drugs. ;)

I have good reason though. My body chemistry is already messed up enough.

...I do smoke and drink caffeine, though. My caffeine comes in the form of Dr Pepper - I detest coffee (Down with coffee! :D).

...I can go indefinetly without a smoke and not even think of it. I don't get any headaches from not having one...
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My body chemistry was VERY differnet when I was 20 and very skinny. Now that I'm older and not-skinny I have a higher tolerance for most drugs. I think skinny people live most of thier lives on the verge of chemical imballance because any little change will have a relatively large effect.

Obviously caffeine and nicotine are seriously interelated. Coffee increases heart rate and nicotine constricts the blood vessels. Combined you feel "amped" because you are forcing your heart to beat really hard to get its work done.

When I quit smoking I was seriously neausous for a week. When I quit drinking coffee, same thing plus punding headaches. I dread the though of someone quitting both at the same time.
 
Originally posted by TommyWillB
Uh... but why do you "*need*" to be awake from 6am to 2am in the first place? Sounds like a time managment problem... ;)
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Life is just too fcuking interesting to be wasted in sleeping. Plus, being awake from 6am to 2am does not mean you spend all this time outside of bed ;)

Originally posted by TommyWillB
IMHO any time you use the word "need" in connection with any drug, that's when you have a problem. I smoked cigarettes for a couple of years, but quit the instant I felt like I "needed" one. I used to drink almost 5 cups of coffee a day, but have since cut back to either one cup of decaf or 1/2 decaf. I currently drink a wine/ beer, but not to the extent that I "need" it.
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I said 'need' in a joke-like form. I can live without coffee, but it's true I feel tired earlier without it. I could get to sleep at midnight or even 10:00PM without coffee, but again, that would be a waste of time, I have many things to do after this hour (re-;)).

And this last paragraph of yours is just so true. Live and let die, that's it.
 
This is one area I really don't understand where people are coming from. Having never done drugs and having very limited experience with alcohol (started drinking at 29 and stopped at 31, never figuring out what the attraction of it was), I find this subject a complete mystery. As such I have a number of questions for anyone who wishes to answer:

(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?

(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?

(3) How/where were you first exposed?

(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".

(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
 
Hmm, Tom, I wish it was a transient thing, but my screwed up chemistry is with me for life. I've been like that my entire life - before I hit puberty as well (and that was just a nasty time period that I really don't wanna think about :p). I have some slight damage to (or malformation of) the hippocampus - don't know from what. Perhaps a congenital thing. Maybe I was dropped too much when I was young :D (just kidding on that one).

I am skinny though - that probably isn't helping me out much. But hey, you try being anything but with a hyperactive metabolism. At least that'll slow down as I age.

Hmm...caffeine doesn't amp me up, either. Kinda makes me feel dreamy...or just calm. But I am definitely addicted to it. If I go a few hours without having any, I get a terrible headache that nothing can stop - not even taking a lot of caffeine after that headache starts will make it go away.

Not having nicotine doesn't make me feel nauseous either. I guess I'm just lucky on this one. But like I said, I just whole out enjoy smoking. Plus, I'm a rebel at heart, and what better thing for a rebel to do these days. ;)

I do wonder sometimes if there are some sort of genes for smoking as there (seem to be) for alcoholism. I come from a long line of smokers. The first time I smoked a cigarette, I didn't cough and wheeze and generally try to hack up my lung like you see normally. I did feel a bit naseous (most likely I swallowed some of the smoke), but that was about it. I would think that maybe I had just taken to it well, but a few years ago my brother decided to take a drag off of one of my smokes. I wasn't worried about him starting up (he highly detests the thought of smoking)...so I let him. Me and my friend were expecting him to start coughing...but no, he took it just like I did the first time I had smoked. So it makes me wonder sometimes if there might not be some predisposition to smoking after a few generations.
 
/// This is one area I really don't understand where people are coming from. Having never done drugs and having very limited experience with alcohol (started drinking at 29 and stopped at 31, never figuring out what the attraction of it was), I find this subject a complete mystery. As such I have a number of questions for anyone who wishes to answer:

(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?

(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?

(3) How/where were you first exposed?

(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".

(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances? ///


(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with? – Peer pressure maybe, availability, my own research into drugs and made me curious? Or maybe I was just being human, and curious that day.
(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs? – I don’t for reasons of respect out of my significant other and work. Alcohol and Cigs, that’s all for me.
(3) How/where were you first exposed? – Don’t understand, I assume you mean OLD? – I was in high school, and then I experimented while touring S America.
(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products". – Well I disagree with the local crack dealer that sells to kids and other likewise with the drugs czars one reads about in the paper. But a friend of mine growing some bud in a pot on his windowsill I don’t mind.
(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances? – I have had the opportunity to travel across Europe and Africa, Along with visiting every country in S America twice (Because I liked it so much down there) and have lived on the east coast and the west coast of the states (Now currently in the middle) And I would stay it is “the norm” in my life style. I don’t look for it – its just there, go to a bar, a restaurant even taking the dog for a walk in the park. No offense to anyone but it doesn’t matter what country/state you are in. Drugs are there (any type) and being used with or with out your knowledge.


It’s ignorant to say, “ Well I don’t associate with them or troughs people”
Because I’ll tell ya they’re there weather you know it or not.


acid
 
Originally posted by RacerX
This is one area I really don't understand where people are coming from. Having never done drugs and having very limited experience with alcohol (started drinking at 29 and stopped at 31, never figuring out what the attraction of it was), I find this subject a complete mystery. As such I have a number of questions for anyone who wishes to answer:

(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?

(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?

(3) How/where were you first exposed?

(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".

(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
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1. What made you eat pizza for the first time? Probably because it was there. The same can be said for why people try a specific drug for the first time.

2. What motivates you to continue to eat pizza? Probably because it tasted good the first time you tried it. The same can be said for most drugs coupled with the affect that most drugs are addictive.

3. Usually by someone you are close to such as a friend or family member.

4. People rarely put much though into where anything comes from, for example, Mc Donalds hamburgers. When I eat one I don't think of the cows that were slaughtered and gutted or the pools of blood that stain the floors of the meat processing plant just so I could enjoy the burger (assuming that there is even meat in Mc Donalds hamburgers :)). Same with the people who use drugs. They don't think of the hollowed out babies used to smuggled that shit across the boarder or the Colombian drug lord that just executed a village because they no longer served his purpose.

5. It is all relative.
 
Originally posted by RacerX

(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?
(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?
(3) How/where were you first exposed?
(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".
(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
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(1) Depression.
(2) I like it.
(3) My drugs are legal.
(4) My drugs dealers are honest shopkeepers.
(5) I do not know neither do I care, BTW.
 
Originally posted by acidtuch10
(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?
(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?
(3) How/where were you first exposed?
(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".
(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
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1) boredom...curiosity...and a hint of rebellion.
2) i like to enjoy myself. sobriety can be so freakin' boring.
3) high school.
4) they risk everything so that i may be entertained. my hat is off to them.
5) i don't really care, but it IS the norm for my friends, and the scene we're a part of.
 
Originally posted by RacerX
(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?

(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?

(3) How/where were you first exposed?

(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".

(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
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1. Curiosity. I wanted know what this high feeling I'd heard so much about actually felt like.

2. I've only done it once, but I will probably do it again and it's because being high is a lot of fun. Some of the best jokes I've ever made were on that night.

3. I was at my friends house with four other friends. He had said were gonna do it. I had no objections. I was a little nervous, but I really wanted to try it. So we walked to this house that was still under construction, went up to the second story and got high. One friend wasn't into that kind of stuff, so he just looked out the window... and went to get us some matches. But, I respected his decision to stay out of it.

4. I don't know much about the people who grow and supply weed, so I don't have an opinion.

5. I feel this is the norm.
 
by acidtuch10:
It’s ignorant to say, “ Well I don’t associate with them or troughs people”
Because I’ll tell ya they’re there weather you know it or not.
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I guess it is a good thing that I never said (or implied) such a thing then. :D It is more along the lines of the use of pornography. I know it is there, I know that people I know use it, but I've never seen any of them use it, none of them has ever offered it to me, and I have never asked any of them specific questions about their use of it. At the same time (like drugs) I do know that there is an elaborate subculture where people do discuss and use it openly.

by kendall:
1. What made you eat pizza for the first time? ...

2. What motivates you to continue to eat pizza? ...

4. People rarely put much though into where anything comes from, for example, Mc Donalds hamburgers...
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(1) Actually the same thing that started me breathing. Pizza is a food. One flavor of many. Food is a requirement, what foods we choose to eat is a taste. Drugs, on the other hand, are not a requirement, so I don't see where the same can be said. Maybe once you have started, then the flavor could be the same, but not the actual beginning of the usage.

Plus it is universally known that drugs are both illegal and can have grave health effects. Why start something when you know it is going to hurt you?

(2) Again, as a food stuff, pizza doesn't match drugs in motivation. Drugs require (I assume) active measures to obtain. These measures are illegal and therefore (again, I assume) require extra care to avoid the consequences. Pizza is usually my food of choice when I am unwilling to take the extra time to get food that requires more extensive measures to prepare.

(4) When I have been made aware of illegal or unethical (or dangerous) practices by places that prepare food, I usually avoid such places. Dealers of drugs are generally all of those things, yet drug users seek them out.

by toast:
(1) Depression.
(2) I like it.
(3) My drugs are legal.
(4) My drugs dealers are honest shopkeepers.
(5) I do not know neither do I care, BTW.
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Interesting, but outside what I was looking for. Thanks anyways.

by wdw_
5. I feel this is the norm.
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Thanks for your response. Do you feel it is the norm because you have done it? That is to say, did you feel outside the norm before doing it? If it had not been done by a majority of your friends, would you have considered it the norm and would you have still done it.
 
I've always felt like I was on the outside. I still feel like I'm on the outside. Smoking weed has not changed who I am.

Most people I know have smoked weed at least once. If I didn't have these friends then I would probably be pretty naive to the pot smoking culture. I probably would have thought that it was something only serious criminals and terrible, terrible people do. If I didn't have these friends I probably wouldn't have considered it the norm, but that's only because I would have been naive.

I don't like the norm. I don't like it because it makes people think that this is how they are supposed to act, and look and feel and if you're not compliant with the norm then you are seen as weird. I'm not in the norm. I've never really been in the norm. Everybody's different, so how can there be a norm?

Anyway. I just want to say I didn't do it because of peer pressure. I didn't do it because everybody else was doing it. I wasn't forced to. I just made a decision to experience something new and I don't regret it.
 
(1) What motivated you to start/try drugs to begin with?

(2) What motivates your continued use of drugs?

(3) How/where were you first exposed?

(4) What do you feel about the people who supply you with these "products"? Not just the person you get them from, but the entire chain of people that supply you with your "products".

(5) Do you feel this is "the norm" or unique to your group or acquaintances?
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1) i needed to breath (like most people do) and i still do.

2) the continuos need of air, to breath

3) figured out some steroids could prevent feeling crappy and fainintg out, or got prescribed

4) i don't like the way the farmacy producers make doctors prescribe their factory's products. but there is nothing i can really do about it

5) i have no idea in the context
 
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