Would you say Tiger is recommended for the average Home user?
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Lt Major Burns
"Dicky" Charlteston-Burns
opening a file will become totally different - i can see already where spotlight will speed up my workflow - i spent about 5 mins y/day trying to remember if i'd accidently put a file in a wrong folder - i would just spotlight it on tiger - there, instantly.
or i would set up a smart folder for everything illustrator in the last 2 weeks. it isn't just search - it's instant cataloging of the whole computer.
dashboard will seem like a nice touch at first - but not essential. that was my first impression of expose - now how much do we use it. you have a multi-button mouse? dashboard will be 4th click. just quickly check the date *4th click* etc
in fact everything that niggles in your head to distract you from work, eventually there should be a widget for most of them - it speeds up productivity by not letting you be distracted for too long.
genius! a 'new posts on macosx forums' widget....
or i would set up a smart folder for everything illustrator in the last 2 weeks. it isn't just search - it's instant cataloging of the whole computer.
dashboard will seem like a nice touch at first - but not essential. that was my first impression of expose - now how much do we use it. you have a multi-button mouse? dashboard will be 4th click. just quickly check the date *4th click* etc
in fact everything that niggles in your head to distract you from work, eventually there should be a widget for most of them - it speeds up productivity by not letting you be distracted for too long.
genius! a 'new posts on macosx forums' widget....
I personally think that info on the dashboard should be visible at one look. New posts on forums and other RSS-based info could be too much too soon... But this gets me thinking... One _good_ thing Microsoft has created in my opinion is the 'Today' screen of their PDA software. Maybe Apple should integrate something like that in the Finder, although probably you _could_ do it with Dashboard quite easily. A Mail widget showing unread mails, the iCal widget showing the next 10 upcoming events and todos etc. Well... I guess I'll actually like Dashboard once I'll customise it to my liking. 
thewelshman
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"Average home user at work"
Agreed and exactly right, its where Apple/Tiger will have to compete, if it can't theres not point in a "student" buying one.
Seems like some people got into wish lists and got off subject rather than weather a stundent should buy Tiger or not.
I will of course buy Tiger, but not for all the pretty dongles (Expose being one of them) , but for all the good stuff MacOSX does really well.
Agreed and exactly right, its where Apple/Tiger will have to compete, if it can't theres not point in a "student" buying one.
Seems like some people got into wish lists and got off subject rather than weather a stundent should buy Tiger or not.
I will of course buy Tiger, but not for all the pretty dongles (Expose being one of them) , but for all the good stuff MacOSX does really well.
Well, clean your own porch first, dude. ... The thread's about whether an average home user should update to Tiger once it's available. That hasn't got much to do with highly specialised oil industry software and the like... However: PIM functionality and whether Dashboard - with the right widgets - can help the 'average home user' is pretty much on topic in my opinion.
... The thread's about whether an average home user should update to Tiger once it's available. That hasn't got much to do with highly specialised oil industry software and the like... However: PIM functionality and whether Dashboard - with the right widgets - can help the 'average home user' is pretty much on topic in my opinion.
Lt Major Burns
"Dicky" Charlteston-Burns
what is a dongle?
ElDiabloConCaca
U.S.D.A. Prime
Some software companies don't use serial numbers -- they use little pieces of hardware, called "dongles" that attach to a USB port or some other port on your computer. When the application launches, it specifically checks for this piece of hardware, and, if not found, refuses to launch (like an invalid serial number).
Usually high-dollar software uses dongles, since they're more effective at discouraging pirating than serial numbers.
BUT -- I think "dongle" was used in this thread to mean "little applications or eye candy that may or may not be useful."
Usually high-dollar software uses dongles, since they're more effective at discouraging pirating than serial numbers.
BUT -- I think "dongle" was used in this thread to mean "little applications or eye candy that may or may not be useful."
thewelshman
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Cheers ElDiablo, the second part was especially what I was getting at.
Fryke: I'm not as negative about the bright shiny bits of the GUI part of UNIX as you would think, I think you maybe a little too protective. As an average user there is about 50% or so of the interface I use, the rest is window dressing, but maybe of some people use other bits.
There is the point that too many people spend time watching the cheer leaders and not enough attention on the game. Tiger's guts and the hardware can do just SO much more than just driving GUI bits and pieces.
I have a Ford Fiesta, this one is just about "KYOTO PROTOCOL" compliant.
The thread as far as I can remember:
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I am a basic home user, and there are some features I'd love, that are on Tiger, like Spotlight. However, they aren't necessary.
Anyhow, would you recommend Tiger to me? I am using Panther. Is it worth buying Tiger, for a student?
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I'll buy Tiger instantly, but not necessarily, especially in Tigers case, the baubles. Another example: Final Cut of any sort, iMovie, etc, when it builds a 25-30 minute documentary into your favorite format can take a long time and ther maybe constraint on your time. A 64 bit version running on 64 bit chips has got to endear it to even the average user of iLife.
I was a Molecular Biology student and would have loved a high speed machine on the desktop, with simple, clean GUI interfaces that and average user could use.
Fryke: I'm not as negative about the bright shiny bits of the GUI part of UNIX as you would think, I think you maybe a little too protective. As an average user there is about 50% or so of the interface I use, the rest is window dressing, but maybe of some people use other bits.
There is the point that too many people spend time watching the cheer leaders and not enough attention on the game. Tiger's guts and the hardware can do just SO much more than just driving GUI bits and pieces.
I have a Ford Fiesta, this one is just about "KYOTO PROTOCOL" compliant.
The thread as far as I can remember:
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I am a basic home user, and there are some features I'd love, that are on Tiger, like Spotlight. However, they aren't necessary.
Anyhow, would you recommend Tiger to me? I am using Panther. Is it worth buying Tiger, for a student?
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I'll buy Tiger instantly, but not necessarily, especially in Tigers case, the baubles. Another example: Final Cut of any sort, iMovie, etc, when it builds a 25-30 minute documentary into your favorite format can take a long time and ther maybe constraint on your time. A 64 bit version running on 64 bit chips has got to endear it to even the average user of iLife.
I was a Molecular Biology student and would have loved a high speed machine on the desktop, with simple, clean GUI interfaces that and average user could use.
Decado
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thewelshman said:
speaking about that; i know that my girlfriend, who studies bio-medicine, is very interested in the bundled "Graphulator" or whatever they are calling it. She uses a lot of colourful swear words describing her "analog/mechanic" texas instrument calculator (which, in its defense, is getting rather old).
even though i am trying to curb my computer spending i am still going to be getting tiger. If you are really strapped for cash like most students are then i would not be in a hurry to get it.
sidenote: why does everyone think that spot light is so great? am i the only one that can keep my files organized enough to be able to find them again?
sidenote: why does everyone think that spot light is so great? am i the only one that can keep my files organized enough to be able to find them again?
ElDiabloConCaca
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Heh... you and me! I can get to any file on my system quickly... mama taught me to put my stuff in folders and keep track of it. Organization helps both on and off the computer, but...
...the sad reality is that we are the minority in the world -- most people have few to no organizational skills, and the world has learned to adapt to them instead of doing what it should do and leave them in the dust! Only kidding...
It's like a real desk at work -- organized people can find their notepad, because it's in the same place all the time and easily accessible. Disorganized people would be looking under the desk, in the next office, etc., never remembering where they put it in the first place. This behavior transfers over to computer use as well -- many, many files scattered across the desktop in no particular order, no discernable folder or organizational structure to their data, "just throw it on the drive and forget about it."
...which is why Spotlight came to be -- there is a breaking point when anyone just has "too much stuff" to organize, and we're quickly approaching that point in technology. Spotlight gives the illusion of organization, so those born without any organizational skills can feel at home with the rest of us...
...the sad reality is that we are the minority in the world -- most people have few to no organizational skills, and the world has learned to adapt to them instead of doing what it should do and leave them in the dust!
Only kidding...It's like a real desk at work -- organized people can find their notepad, because it's in the same place all the time and easily accessible. Disorganized people would be looking under the desk, in the next office, etc., never remembering where they put it in the first place. This behavior transfers over to computer use as well -- many, many files scattered across the desktop in no particular order, no discernable folder or organizational structure to their data, "just throw it on the drive and forget about it."
...which is why Spotlight came to be -- there is a breaking point when anyone just has "too much stuff" to organize, and we're quickly approaching that point in technology. Spotlight gives the illusion of organization, so those born without any organizational skills can feel at home with the rest of us...
I'm about to buy a new PB, should I wait 'til Tiger comes out? (I'm posting this here because I'm a student.) Specifically, all these new things (Spotlight, Dashboard, etc.) seem great, but not necessary; besides them, what will the advantages of Tiger be? I've heard some of you hint about code streamlining or some such, that's what I'm wondering about. (Goldangit, I'm typing this on a PC and it's not working!)
Well: If you buy the PB now, you'll probably _want_ to upgrade to Tiger when it's out, so that'll mean another 79 USD (student price, right?) for the upgrade. But that way, you'll already _have_ the PB, so that sounds good, too... If you can wait, though, it'd make more financial sense to wait until the PB comes with Tiger or at least has the 'right' to get Tiger for free (or the 'cheap' update price of 19 or 29 dollars).
maverick808
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lurk said:
Tiger does seem to perform a lot faster than Panther. Window resizing is much smoother, dock responds quicker, expose is smoother. Everything is quite noticably faster.
Increased speed in existing things is, in my opinion, an improvement to existing code and not "new stuff" so I'd say the question does have value.
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Panther is a great operating system. The only thing you'll regret is the extra money (not really that much money) you'll spend when you move to Tiger.mbveau said:
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to maverick808:
"Tiger does seem to perform a lot faster than Panther. Window resizing is much smoother, dock responds quicker, expose is smoother. Everything is quite noticably faster."
And on what specific type of mac did you tested this ?
G3,G4,G5? ATI ???? RAM ????
thx ;-)
"Tiger does seem to perform a lot faster than Panther. Window resizing is much smoother, dock responds quicker, expose is smoother. Everything is quite noticably faster."
And on what specific type of mac did you tested this ?
G3,G4,G5? ATI ???? RAM ????
thx ;-)