Which mac for adobe

jgaard

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Which mac for running adobes Illustrator, Photo shop and Indesign?
How much RAM?

Please recomend a display too for DTP and graphic design.

J;-)
 
It depends on what you intend to use those programs for... I understand they're all "design" programs, but what exactly are you looking to do with them?

If you want simple desktop design, a new iMac would do nicely. 512MB of RAM, minimum -- 1GB or more recommended.

If you're looking for professional-level color correction, I would recommend skipping any flat-screen LCD monitors/computers and go for a calibrateable, large, hooded CRT -- 21" or larger. Back in the mid-90s a good, calibrateable monitor like a RasterOps monitor was crucial. A G5 computer to go along with that with 2GB of RAM or more would be nice as well for working on those 11x17 300dpi photos in PhotoShop as well.

If you can elaborate on exactly what you plan to do with those programs, perhaps we can help you narrow down the choice a little more.
 
My wife is starting in a new job and was asked to spec her new computer.

In her new job she will be making a 12 page sales catalog. And other smaller designs for shops. She will be the only inhouse graphic designer/DTP'er.

Are there any LCD's that can be adjusted for good color? Or is CRT a must?

Also if you can recomend a good scanner for such a job.

J;-)

Sorry I'm still using a PC.
 
I've laid out out several catalogs/ trade journals/ things of that nature several times in the past. I find that the worst part of the task is handling large files easily.

Your wife should be more than happy with the bottom of the line G5, but upgrade the RAM to at least 2 GB. That'll make handling large pics much more pleasant.

As for Display, I like the Apple Cinema Display. I don't tend to recommend other companies' LCD displays due to a typical lack of DVI or better connection, which can effect color reproduction. Having said that, the 23" inch Cinema Display has been accused of having a pink cast to the color, most likely because the lcd was made in a different factory than the 20" & 30" lcd's.

If the system looks too pricey, the new iMacs have been reliable for color accuracy (remember that poor studio lighting can also impact color perception. Halogen has been my stand-by for a few years).

But if a CRT is the choice for monitor, LaCie still makes an excellent hooded display. Pricey, but worth it if color accuracy is a very big issue.
 
the apple 20" display colour is excellent. very, very good. i think it's actually better than CRT's as it doesn't suffer from and distortion from the image being 'focussed' on the glass tube. colour definition is very good. 23" has problems, but the 20" and 30" don't suffer from this. the 20" iMac shares the same panel as this cinema display.

the dell FP2405W 24" HD display is also very good, will with brilliant colour and a very nice price tag.

for image work, make sure you get lots of RAM.
 
For many years I used a variety of Adobe products on a PowerPC 7600 (with minimal RAM and a hopelessly slow processor) and a 14" Apple CRT display! I got by surprisingly well under the circumstances (publishing a bi-monthly advertising magazine and not missing a deadline), although things obviously improved with a newly purchased G4 with 768 RAM (2 GB would be preferred) and a 22' Mitsubushi Diamond Plus 200 CRT.

In many respects the move to a bigger display had a much greater impact on my workflow than a higher-powered computer. If I won the Lotto tomorrow I would purchase an Apple wide screen 30" LCD before upgrading my computer.

I would point out that my friend's G5 iMac with a 20" wide screen is better to work with than my 22" 'square' monitor, despite being a bit smaller. The wide screen has the advantage of displaying a multitude of palates, whilst allowing maximum window display size for products such as InDesign, where you often want place objects outside the main work area, and for running two or more programmes simultaneously side by side.
 
The 2405 fpw from dell has got to be the best monitor i have ever looked at. It's price for uner 1000 (close to 900 sometimes!) is unbeatable.

CRT's nowadadys look like crap because the industry knows that lcd's are the big money maker now. So they don't care about the quality of crt monitors, especially the flat screen ones.

LCDs, such as the 2405, have much more vivid and bold colors than CRTs and obviously are much sharper. Just about everything except motion blur and backlight bleeding is better on an LCD.
IF you must get a crt, get a sony trinitron or a mitsubishi diamnodtron.
 
Just about anything that's currently offered will do what you're looking for, but I'd stay away from the Minis and iBooks if at all possible. I was doing far more intensive projects than what you described on a G3 iBook up until a month or so ago, without any issues (some lag, but nothing too bad)—there's still a lot of designs shops using G4 (400MHz and 500MHZ) era models.

  • Any (dual-core) G5 model with 1GB of RAM & a 20 or 23 inch Apple LCD (the 30" one is a great item, but pricey and not required...two 20's or 23s are a good alternative/bang for the buck in its place). 2GB can be had for very little $$$, so if possible go for it.
  • 15" PowerBook with a minimum of 1GB of RAM (you can upgrade to 2GB [2x 1GB] from OWC/Macsales for less than the price of 1GB [2 x 512] from Apple [remember, the PB only has 2 slots]). On a PB, I'd definitely try to max it out (I currently have this model with 512MB...it's usable, but definitely will need more RAM in the future).

LCDs are the choice today and in the future. Apple's current offerings are more than capable and usable for design work, not to mention they are priced well. LaCie offers LCD models (they no longer make CRTs), some of which equal or beat (price & specs) those offered by Apple. It really depends on the budget and how important color matching is to you. It's entirely possible to use Apple's display and get good output, it just might take a bit more initial setup than if you used a 2-3X more expensive LaCie model with BlueEye.
 
mdnky said:
Just about anything that's currently offered will do what you're looking for, but I'd stay away from the Minis and iBooks if at all possible. I was doing far more intensive projects than what you described on a G3 iBook up until a month or so ago, without any issues (some lag, but nothing too bad)—there's still a lot of designs shops using G4 (400MHz and 500MHZ) era models.

  • Any (dual-core) G5 model with 1GB of RAM & a 20 or 23 inch Apple LCD (the 30" one is a great item, but pricey and not required...two 20's or 23s are a good alternative/bang for the buck in its place). 2GB can be had for very little $$$, so if possible go for it.
  • 15" PowerBook with a minimum of 1GB of RAM (you can upgrade to 2GB [2x 1GB] from OWC/Macsales for less than the price of 1GB [2 x 512] from Apple [remember, the PB only has 2 slots]). On a PB, I'd definitely try to max it out (I currently have this model with 512MB...it's usable, but definitely will need more RAM in the future).

LCDs are the choice today and in the future. Apple's current offerings are more than capable and usable for design work, not to mention they are priced well. LaCie offers LCD models (they no longer make CRTs), some of which equal or beat (price & specs) those offered by Apple. It really depends on the budget and how important color matching is to you. It's entirely possible to use Apple's display and get good output, it just might take a bit more initial setup than if you used a 2-3X more expensive LaCie model with BlueEye.

You could always get a 16,000 dollar CRT trinitron...
But if you are considering getting a 23" apple monitor you should look at the Dell 2405fpw. I think it has much better colors, defiently a better contrast and a larger screen area, all for less money. Dell also makes a 2005fpw which is a 20" inch one less than 500 dollars...
 
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