Official Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Thread & FAQ

gphilipk: I'd install the upgrade the _first_ time you're starting the machine. Simply turn the machine on, put the disc in immediately and press the "c" key so it starts from that disc. Upgrading will preserve iLife. If you clean install, you have to install iLife afterwards from the original installation discs.
 
Apparently, if you like Window Shades--and I do--it does not work with the upgrade. Unfortunately the makers of the product have little regard for their customers so who knows if it will ever work again. Was a favorite feature of OS 9.

--J.D.
 
Hopefully Shapeshifter can be launched again now that (according to Syracusa) the usage of resource fork is unified again.
 
Just wanted to add the link to Siracusa's (sic!) review as well... 23 pages of in-depth glory. If you meet someone online who claims SL is only a service pack, point him to the review of 10.6. (I think the review earns being linked to twice on the same page...) ;)
 
fryke said:
Just wanted to add the link to Siracusa's (sic!) review as well... 23 pages of in-depth glory. If you meet someone online who claims SL is only a service pack, point him to the review of 10.6. (I think the review earns being linked to twice on the same page...) ;)
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Maybe that's just because I like Syrah...

Let's say it a major service pack...
 
It is finally shipping!
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--J.D.
 
Holy Cow Batman

Installed fine and they weren't kidding about that speed increase. It's definitely noticeable, for me at least. I was debating installing a 128GB or 256GB Crucial SSD drive, but now I'm not so sure--might cause shock or something if it got any faster. :D
 
Hm. I think it can never be too fast. And a speed increase fades away after time. Not that it really turns slower, but for example: I've noticed how much faster my iPhone 3GS is when I first upgraded from the 3G, but nowadays, I don't find it that fast. It still _is_ though, when I compare to a 3G directly... ;)

So... I'm thinkin' about getting an SSD to replace my iMac's main harddrive. (The machine has to be opened in our service center soon, anyway, to clean the display glass from the inside...) But they're still quite expensive in 3.5" format. I only find 64 GB drives as well. I'd need at least a 128 GB, better a 256 GB drive...
 
fryke said:
Hm. I think it can never be too fast. And a speed increase fades away after time...

So... I'm thinkin' about getting an SSD to replace my iMac's main harddrive. (The machine has to be opened in our service center soon, anyway, to clean the display glass from the inside...) But they're still quite expensive in 3.5" format. I only find 64 GB drives as well. I'd need at least a 128 GB, better a 256 GB drive...
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Agreed, but this upgrade made a very noticeable difference. Kudos to Apple's engineers/developers on this.

Never seen a 3.5" SSD, but I haven't looked for them either. Most people are running the 2.5" models in the desktops using a carrier. You have to remember the SSD part negates any difference in size that a normal HD suffers from. If you do get one, make sure it uses the Indilinx Bearfoot controller and not the JMicron junk. Crucial and OCZ seem to be the best bang for the buck. Both have been tested and certified for use in Macs (probably not an issue anyways, but it's nice to know they've been checked.)

I just bought a Seagate 500GB 7200RPM 2.5" drive for now. Eventually (6-8 months, after the next price drop) I'll buy the 256MB SSD from Crucial and move the 500GB to where my DVD drive is for file storage. Never use the thing, so it makes sense. If Apple gets rid of the SD card slot from the 15" pros and brings back the ExpressCard slot, then I'll just buy a new one. They already brought back the anti-glare screen, so the ExpressCard is the only thing holding me back right now.

Anyone with a SSD install Snow Leopard yet? Did the optimizations for SSD drives help much?
 
I'm now using sleep with wake-up on Ethernet for my iMac and I still use AppleTV to listen to music. It creates an issue: when the AppleTV selects (using Genius) a song that is not on its harddisk, it may take more than 30s to recover the song from the iMac.

The idea of wake on Ethernet is good, but far too slow, therefore the AppleTV should anticipate and upload songs from the Genius list in advance !
 
I think the AppleTV should be rethought as a whole. If you only have one Mac, it's okay to have your media server on that Mac. But as soon as you have two Macs and one AppleTV, it would make sooooooooooooo much more sense to have the AppleTV be your iTunes server, managed from either of your Macs (or even better: both!). You could hook a very large harddrive to the AppleTV's USB port (or give a new version an FW800 port even). It also makes much more sense to free up space on your Macs' harddrives than on the AppleTV's drive(s). But with that, we're getting off-topic.

Either way: Of course AppleTV should be able to "see ahead" and start getting files in advance when streaming from a computer that may or may not fall asleep.
 
fryke said:
I think the AppleTV should be rethought as a whole. If you only have one Mac, it's okay to have your media server on that Mac. But as soon as you have two Macs and one AppleTV, it would make sooooooooooooo much more sense to have the AppleTV be your iTunes server, managed from either of your Macs (or even better: both!). You could hook a very large harddrive to the AppleTV's USB port (or give a new version an FW800 port even). It also makes much more sense to free up space on your Macs' harddrives than on the AppleTV's drive(s). But with that, we're getting off-topic.

Either way: Of course AppleTV should be able to "see ahead" and start getting files in advance when streaming from a computer that may or may not fall asleep.
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100% agree !!! AppleTV should be to the media what TimeCapsule is to the network. And X.6 can do that with its much better management of sleep modes (computers keep synchronizing when asleep).
 
09-05-09 installed snow leoperd on my mac pro work station/10g ram. I had prepared for it by running disk utility/disk warrior and making sure time machine backups of leopard were on a seperate HD. Also had done a lot of updating 3rd party applications. It went very smooth; just some tweaks like "Mail". I am very pleased with it so far and the speed is very very nice. The first sl update will be out this week I heard from somewhere and this should further refine SL. It really went quite well !!!!!
Dickster---------------------
 
Just thought I'd mention that since I have installed Snow Leopard on my laptop, it has crashed twice (giving me the "please shut down your computer" box with the power symbol) and in the about 1 and half years that i've had the laptop it has never crashed once.
 
I have installed SL over L (i.e. not a clean install) and I don't recommend it. I would add that I was quite happy to do this, so I am not disappointed.

My Mac Mini (see specs below) has slowed down ++. I can't remember seeing the spinning pizza so much. Perhaps 1 GB of RAM is bare bones for this OS, or more likely a clean install is only the sensible option.

Photoshop CS3 comes with an error message on start up (see attachment), but otherwise works fine (so far that is). VisualHub is perfectly functional if you don't mind the 'Applescript error' message when quitting.

My only minor gripe is Apple's fiddling with eye candy. There doesn't seem to be any consistent theme (i.e. black Stacks).
 

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Adding to the detail of my crashing problem, here's what showed up for the fourth time.



Interval Since Last Panic Report: 42949 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 96568003-8498-45FE-9785-45571E71BF19

Wed Sep 9 09:13:00 2009
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xefaaec): AppleIntelGMAX3100FB GPU parser error. EIR 0x1 ESR 0x1 Instruction Error IPEIR 0 IPEHR 0xff20513e BBADDR 0 INSTDONE 0xffe5fafd INSTPS 0xb8c32 INSTPM 0x10
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x2f9c3e28 : 0x21acfa (0x5ce650 0x2f9c3e5c 0x223156 0x0)
0x2f9c3e78 : 0xefaaec (0xf02bc0 0x548f0a0 0xf02bb0 0x1)
0x2f9c3f08 : 0x548049 (0x5506800 0x54ec880 0x1 0x29b50a)
0x2f9c3f58 : 0x54707a (0x54ec880 0x863ec0 0x5dd9044 0x5dd901c)
0x2f9c3f88 : 0x5474d4 (0x55d89c0 0x55d89c0 0x0 0xffffffff)
0x2f9c3fc8 : 0x29c68c (0x55d89c0 0x0 0x0 0x564e0a4)
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelGMAX3100FB(6.0.0)@0xeef000->0xf05fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.3.0)@0x91e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x932000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0xbdc000
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleSMC(3.0.1d2)@0x922000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
10A432

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.0.0: Fri Jul 31 22:47:34 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1456.1.25~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBook4,1 (Mac-F22788A9)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 1069162487723
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 2.0 (addr 0xc96000, size 0x12288) - last unloaded 148730711430
loaded kexts:
com.apple.filesystems.afpfs 9.5 - last loaded 905187142569
com.apple.nke.asp_tcp 5.0
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.2d0
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.0d4
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a20
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 161
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPenrynProfile 17
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.0.5
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelGMAX3100 6.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelGMAX3100FB 6.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTrackpad 1.8.0b4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 1.8.0b4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.8.0b4
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.5.0
com.apple.BootCache 31
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPIIXATA 2.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.7.8
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.iokit.AppleYukon2 3.1.14b1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 160.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 410.91.20
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 90.0.0
com.apple.security.sandbox 0
com.apple.security.quarantine 0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 2.0.11
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 90.0.0
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction 17
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.0.3
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a20
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileThreadInfoAction 14
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileRegisterStateAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileKEventAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileCallstackAction 20
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 73.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.7.0fc16
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.3
com.apple.iokit.AppleProfileFamily 40
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.0.1d2
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.0
com.apple.driver.CSRUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.2f18
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 402.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.1.7
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.7.8
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.3.0
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 300.20
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 6
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 281
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.3
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.3.0
Model: MacBook4,1, BootROM MB41.00C1.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.1 GHz, 2 GB, SMC 1.31f0
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100, GMA X3100, Built-In, 144 MB
Memory Module: global_name
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x88), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.91.19)
Bluetooth: Version 2.2.0f18, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD2500BEVS-00UST0, 232.89 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITACD-RW CW-8221
USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8501, 0xfd400000
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0229, 0x5d200000
USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x5d100000
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8205, 0x1a100000
 
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